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Old 01-05-2012, 06:14 PM
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Brian Clough-England Manager

Bit of a memory lane one here but with all the hoo-haa about Harry being snubbed for the top job, I've heard people banging on about how Clough similarly missed out. And that the football authorities were somehow scared of him.

Anyone else think the FA made the right decision then? IMO Ron Greenwood was a damn good England manager and that early 80s England team was one of the best I can remember. Especially given that they were playing in what was a golden era for international football. (Unlike now).

Clough had proved himself by improving average players at small clubs. Not sure how he would have got the best out of the big egos in the England squad at the time. Sounds familiar??
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Redknapp isnt fit to lace Cloughs boots

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I'd say Hodgson is far more similar to Clough
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Clough would have won the World Cup with the England players available in the 70's.
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The FA were scared Clough would embarass them in public. He was always controversial but at that particular time you got the impression he was saying things for effect. If they had appointed him and he tried to handle the England players the way he handled the Leeds egos it would all have ended in tears anyway.
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If they had appointed him and he tried to handle the England players the way he handled the Leeds egos it would all have ended in tears anyway.
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I love this Brian Clough interview with John Motson. It seems even more pertinent in today's day and age. He was an incredible character and if drink hadn't beaten him he would probably still be involved in club football now.
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The FA were scared Clough would embarass them in public. He was always controversial but at that particular time you got the impression he was saying things for effect. If they had appointed him and he tried to handle the England players the way he handled the Leeds egos it would all have ended in tears anyway.
Excellent post, Clough was one of the greats at taking a set of ordinary players mixing them with one or two greats and turning them into world beaters as a team. It was about building a team but at Leeds he had the players but the response was not there the rejection by the senior players of the methods psychology he used could have been the same in the England set up. It was also apparent by then he was suffering his own personnel demons. In a way he and our own Big Mal were similar in style with many of the same traits great tacticians but in need of another character be it Joe Mercer or Peter Taylor (the coach).....Would have loved Clough Taylor at Palace but not at England. The two great England managers Sir Alf and Bobby Robson (remember though he struggled with the press) knew how to handle the egos.
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I love that interview, Clough is spot on and unfortunately the message went unheeded.

We have too many pundits, 'experts' and Robbie Savages making a living by giving us their worthless opinions.

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You should do K..........We're rivals.
Most of us were aware, I'd wager
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You'd win the bet Sunny.
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