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Old 28-08-2013, 11:02 PM
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Time for a fresh face though? Off the pitch it's hard to see too much improvement in marketing etc compared to our rivals.

I would love to see an ace DOF brought in to oversee scouting, transfers plus the youth setup. If done right it would be a real shot of life in the club to capitalise on promotion etc.

My one disappointment this summer is the lack of visible progress off the pitch when now is the time to be building long term and not just in terms of stadium and players.
I think it's a fair point. The club was a complete shambles under Goldberg and Jordan, and although it seems the owners are trying their hardest you never seem to get anything out of Phil Alexander. Why has the stadium been such a state all these years? Why hasn't there even been basic things like seat numbers on the seats etc.? What exactly does he do outside of the transfer window? Why does it always feel like the club is run in such an amateur way, despite all the hard work of people like Mandy, Foz etc.?
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Old 28-08-2013, 11:04 PM
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Oh yeah. Why didn't Phil tell CPFC2010 that the Swansea game will need to be rearranged to Sunday if they qualify for the next round of the Europa league?
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Reading this thread is totally embarrassing. People need to get a grip. Am also surprised at some posters on here who are usually decent.

PA is a top guy, any thoughts that players etc won't sign because of him are beyond clueless.

Get a grip peeps FFS.

Next we're be blaming the groundsman. To much grass for Tottenham to play football.

Groundsman out!
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Old 29-08-2013, 01:26 AM
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I think it's a fair point. The club was a complete shambles under Goldberg and Jordan, and although it seems the owners are trying their hardest you never seem to get anything out of Phil Alexander. Why has the stadium been such a state all these years? Why hasn't there even been basic things like seat numbers on the seats etc.? What exactly does he do outside of the transfer window? Why does it always feel like the club is run in such an amateur way, despite all the hard work of people like Mandy, Foz etc.?

Haha. Seat numbers, you serious .

And what does he do? Again you serious? You try running a lost making business with hundreds of staff, and have everything perfect.

Making things great when you have cash is hard enough.

Under Jordan the guy was facing a losing battle very day, it must have been like trying to block a dam with a sticking plaster.

2010 have worked with him for three years now. if he was no good, do you not thiink he would have left by now?

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Old 29-08-2013, 06:34 AM
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If people really aren't happy with the amazing progress made in three short years, then they are supporting the wrong club. Is everything perfect at The Emirates? Or Stamford Bridge? I think the transformation in so many areas of the club has been remarkable. If it takes 10 days to post out a replica shirt, or the big screen has a dodgy panel, so what? I'm sure the club are aware and even the little things are on the 'to do' list. People like Phil, Sharon, Terry and Mandy do masses of unseen stuff which seems to be taken for granted, and baseless accusations really aren't fair or reasonable. Rome wasn't built in a day, enjoy the journey instead of impatiently moaning that we're not yet at the destination.
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Old 29-08-2013, 06:38 AM
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If it takes 10 days to post out a replica shirt
Whoa there. Too far, it took 15 days for mine... Not good enough.

So I'm changing my mind. Phil out

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Old 29-08-2013, 06:46 AM
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Blimey. 3 narrow defeats and already the knives are out.

Surely if PA was so incompetent one of the regimes he's worked under would have twigged and binned him off by now?
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People will not criticise the owners so Phil presumably become the natural scapegoat. From the posts on here it is pretty clear most people have no idea what Phil actually does. The suggestion he is twiddling his thumbs outside the transfer window is particularly amusing. I think if anyone looks back they will see that both administrators have been extremely complimentary about Phil as well - in fact I recall that somewhere Patterson said we should thank him for the fact the club still exists.

You can't manage unmanageable owners or do things with non-existent money neither can you be held accountable for a shop that you DO NOT RUN.
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And above all he was a feckin' hero for the London Monarchs at Wembley. End of.
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He holds the world record for longest field goal in World League history (54 yards v Merton Admirals).
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Pardew's Shorts generally hates me on here, so I don't know why I am defending him, but...

He is absolutely right when he says lots of people have asked what PA does, and have questionned how successful he is. I've heard it at the ground, in pubs, on trains to matches etc, it is a fairly common question among fans.

The truth is, none of us really know, and the fact that MR B has said he does and important job should be enough. Although...

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Time for a fresh face though? Off the pitch it's hard to see too much improvement in marketing etc compared to our rivals.
Maybe send your ideas to the head of marketing then?

Have you also missed

- The Crystals
- The new badge which has 3 different versions depending on the use
- Palace ale
- Sponsorship that gives us exposure in the Far East
- Posters campaigns around South London
- Eagles Fitter
- CPFC Foundation
- Groupon (okay, that one is embarrassing)
- Themed restaurants in the Main Stand

???

These are all areas that create or work in conjunction with developing the CPFC brand and have been developed in the last few years. I'd say they're doing pretty well when compared with Jordan who's only marketing strategy was to make himself a **** on tv.
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If nothing else, the thread has made me wonder about the CE role in football clubs. At our level I suspect it is different from the equivalent at Chelsea etc. I suspect that primarily it is focused on overseeing the staff and operations behind the scenes, the administration stuff. In this regard it may well involve growing club income once a step has been decided on by the owner(s)/Chairman/Directors.
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Pardew's Shorts generally hates me on here, so I don't know why I am defending him, but...

He is absolutely right when he says lots of people have asked what PA does, and have questionned how successful he is. I've heard it at the ground, in pubs, on trains to matches etc, it is a fairly common question among fans.

The truth is, none of us really know, and the fact that MR B has said he does and important job should be enough. Although...
His post was quite specific about transfer negotiations though and seemed designed to stir things up and I for one had never heard any rumours about this, he made the comments after his mammoth post on the Bristol City thread which got some support and as usual was all positive designed to put down some dissenters, in it he defends the transfer policy, nowhere did it suggest that there was an issue internally about getting players to sign for the club.

Whether he meant to or not, it came across like there was a concern about PA's involvement, and I suggest that if some other poster who may not be quite as positive as some had posted it, then people like Pardews shorts would have shot them down in flames.
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