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So SK and the US have contingency plans? Stone the crows.
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So SK and the US have contingency plans? Stone the crows.
No stone the people who allowed the insecurity in their systems that led to hacking of sensitive and crucial information to the potential enemy.
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So SK and the US have contingency plans? Stone the crows.
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How much money does the USA make with its presence in South Korea? Or is it just beneficial to their military strategy to be there?
A better question to ask is how much having a military presence in South Korea lets the US Arms industry rip off the US treasury.
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You could argue that a bellicose NK boosts arms sales in the area and keeps some of the richest countries on the planet in the US sphere of influence. Yet I can't help thinking that rampant anti-Americanism is making some people cloud their judgement as to what a dangerous guy this man in NK actually is.
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No stone the people who allowed the insecurity in their systems that led to hacking of sensitive and crucial information to the potential enemy.
You never know, the way the world works today, they could have leaked it on purpose. Especially considering that one would expect that the US would definitely have plans to assassinate plenty of leaders around the world they don't approve of.
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no stone unturned?
So the contingency plan is they are going to lob a load of stones at Pyongyang?
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A tremor reported again?? Another missile test likely.
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Trump 'ready to meet Kim Jong-Un', according to this report ...

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So do we give any credit to Trump ....?
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So do we give any credit to Trump ....?
Why on earth?

Let's be honest. It's N.Korea's nuclear weapons that have changed (leveled?) the playing field.

I was just reading an article about the outbreak of bonhomie on the Korean peninsula and was wondering why the tweeting silence from the buffoon in the White House.
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So do we give any credit to Trump ....?
No, I was there on the 8th & 9th of April. I'll take all the credit.
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So do we give any credit to Trump ....?
Maybe we do!(spit) maybe the Chinese got in the ear of the North Koreans and said "This nutter trump is mentally deranged enough to actually use nukes to destroy your country...better pull your heads in cos he's mad" and maybe that worked.

Thing is how many times can this sort of "diplomacy" work? Actually its not designed to "work" because war is just what the US economy needs and possibly other economies that are looking for free trade deals?..at some point the posturing has to turn into action....weapons have to be used so that weapons can be made to boost economies of arms industries and associated industries...the threat "of" won't continue to have power and its not designed to have any sort of diplomatic longevity or purpose other than war ....Trump is mad that's the problem...The lunatics have taken over the asylum! they really have!!
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The lunatics have taken over the asylum! they really have!!
Or perhaps the idealists have simply had their day and now the pragmatists are taking charge.
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Just to add...I'll put money on Trump starting a war with someone if it looks as though he'll be impeached by the fbi et al investigations
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Or perhaps the idealists have simply had their day and now the pragmatists are taking charge.
When did the idealists have their day exactly?

Do you really think having a psychopath sitting on top of the worlds largest nuclear arsenal with a button in his hand is pragmatism??...could you explain?
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When did the idealists have their day exactly?

Do you really think having a psychopath sitting on top of the worlds largest nuclear arsenal with a button in his hand is pragmatism??...could you explain?
Do you mean Putin?
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Do you mean Putin?
I think maybe Putin may fits the psychopath thing but I give him "some" credit for having "intelligence" too...with Trump its all about Trump and his ego, a psychopath in the truest sense....bit like Super Al(sorry Al!! not really) with nukes....I dont think there is a long game with Trump. Nothing goes beyond his ego...that scares the shit out of me...Diplomacy has to be about the long game...even if its a long con!....war is failure and i fear he doesn't see that...if anything he only sees the dollars in war(is that what you mean by pragmatism??)....but feck me i bet it isn't gonna be Donald JNR who puts on a uniform and becomes an infantry grunt...its gonna be yours and my children.
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I think maybe Putin may fits the psychopath thing but I give him "some" credit for having "intelligence" too...with Trump its all about Trump and his ego, a psychopath in the truest sense....bit like Super Al(sorry Al!! not really) with nukes....I dont think there is a long game with Trump. Nothing goes beyond his ego...that scares the shit out of me...Diplomacy has to be about the long game...even if its a long con!....war is failure and i fear he doesn't see that.
Forgive me but that is utter bollocks.

Trump does things that calls other sides' bluffs.

It may well be a tad distasteful in the way he does it but it works.

Barack Obama was a really nice guy and yet he was one of the most ineffectual U.S. Presidents in recent times.

We don't need nice guys in charge; we just need people who are able to fix things.

If Trump fixes Korea then unleash him on the Middle East because that has been a western f*ck up for 70 odd years.
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