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Old 04-04-2013, 09:45 AM
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So unless I am mistaken only two Atomic Bombs have ever been dropped/sent/fired etc and that was 60+ years ago.

Thats not a lot to go on in terms of damage to the worlds polution/enviroment. I would imagine that any nuclear bombs from 2013 would be far more devasting and possible affects afterwards could be extreme not only for Korea/North and South but China and the rest of the world. If you think of the issues caused but Chernobyll on Russia and the rest of Europe then you can envisage what several bombs might do. Scary stuff for all of us.
Only two have been dropped or used in anger. However when you include tests there have been over 2000 nuclear detonations
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Could this just be China getting its ally to get the yanks to look elsewhere whilst they go for the Spratleys/Taiwan?
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Could this just be China getting its ally to get the yanks to look elsewhere whilst they go for the Spratleys/Taiwan?
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Supposing North Korea gave a war and nobody came.

This I think is the most likely outcome.

It must be frustrating for NK and its new boy leader to get to grips with the fact that possessing nuclear weapons these days, big'ns or little'ns, makes very little difference to one's influence, locally or globally.

You cannot fight a war with nuclear weapons, even with small tacticals, and expect to personally survive it, as their use will inevitably lower the threshold of use for the larger ones.

So all that can be done is to do what the boy leader is currently doing, and that is to jack up the threat of use, in the hope that it produces something from the nothing they are currently gleaning locally, and globally in general.

Today it is "approval" for military use of nukes. Tomorrow it will be "we are polishing the red launch button". The day after it will be "the fingers are poised over the red button", and so on.

They know full well that once the button is actually pressed in a pre-emptive and unprovoked manner, which is what it seems they want to the rest of the world to fear at the moment, they are lost. They will be seen as the aggressor, and for that reason alone, it would be very difficult for China to support them.

All the US and SK need to do, is not to bite and just simply sit on their hands, and don't play their silly childish and dangerous playground games.

NK will be the architects of their own miserable failure, and any dignity they are trying to retrieve is going to replaced by a total humiliation.
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North Korea have 6 nukes, each equivalent to the one dropped on Nagasaki. The commonly held view is that they probably don't have the technical systems required to deliver them effectively. Seoul is about the only place in any real danger of a direct hit, although of course any nuclear strike will have MASSIVE implications on that region.
I was under the impression their entire nuclear capability was only in the 7-10 kiloton range, whereas the Nagasaki bomb was 20 kilotons.

The Trident submarine missile system owned by the US and UK can deliver 1500 kilotons per missile.
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Due to austerity measures Wales have come up with a cheap alternative to defend the West of Britain:

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I'm worried. You just know that we will secure promotion only to be thwarted by a fleet of north korean nuclear submarines rendering every other place uninhabitable. Only Blackpool will be improved.
I think if you read the small print, they only plan to attack once Palace qualify for Europe.
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Only two have been dropped or used in anger. However when you include tests there have been over 2000 nuclear detonations
We bombed the crap out of Australia...

biggest shock was the number of warheads tested by France, over 200!
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I went to the Premiere of Olympus Has Fallen last night and the storyline is quite ironic given whats going on.
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How can any 'test' be safe ? Surely they all have some repurcussions on the planet. Those at sea surely mean that those areas are total Danger zones and clearly could have spread all over the world.

Interesting really - 50 years on and we havent really moved from the threat of another Cuban Missile crisis.
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How can any 'test' be safe ? Surely they all have some repurcussions on the planet. Those at sea surely mean that those areas are total Danger zones and clearly could have spread all over the world.

Interesting really - 50 years on and we havent really moved from the threat of another Cuban Missile crisis.
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Interesting that the US led the Soviets in both timing and number of nuclear tests.
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For insight into DPRK thinking, it's interesting to have a read of some of the Korean Central News Agency's releases at To view the link you have to Register or Login

Reporting on how the US have moved destroyers capable of taking out missiles, not to mention stationing F-22s in South Korea:

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Oh crap, will this affect my kayaking?
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