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He's the Brazilian Zaha.

The hype this kid is generating is silly stupid. It's like he shuts rose petals and farts potpourri.
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Old 21-06-2013, 03:05 PM
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Or he really is a very very good player!
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In terms of tricks they are very similar. However is is not just the finishing and ball striking but the decision making as well. One through past the Mexican players would Wilf have found Jo or gone for goal from the angle?
We know what he would have done.

And that is what he needs to improve if he is to make it at Manchester United
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Untested in Europe. Brazillian domestic football is very poor and people talk about him in the same breath as Messi and Ronaldo.
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Hmmm, I wonder how many Brazilian domestic games you've seen?
Neymar untested in Europe... good observation, but they're all untest before they get the chance to play there!

The reason why there's so much hype about him is that he's been "on show" playing for Santos for the last two or three seasons with many European clubs watching him with their tongues hanging out desperate to sign him. Hmm I wonder why that is? Barca paid how much for him? 48 million? But then Barca don't know a good player when they see one right?

Whenever a young kid shows signs of greatness the armchair experts trot out comparisons with previous and current greats in the game. Why judge Neymar on comparisons?

I've been going to Santos twice a year for many years now and have had the pleasure of seeing him play. I can tell you, the Santos fans knew many years ago they had something special on their hands and whenever he got the ball there was an air of expectation, a rise in excitement (not unlike the feeling you get when Wilf gets the ball).

Just sit back and enjoy watching him play. He's a pleasure to watch.
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Very good player, but he does have very spindly legs.
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Wilf certainly needs to improve his finishing, and his end product/decision making, though I think the latter is actually better than many give him credit for. He has made scores of telling passes, crosses and assists (many resulting in goals, and many resulting in poor misses).

Remember that sublime skill then wonderful pass to Wilbraham in the final? Not an assist, but it will be at Manchester United. That was superb skill, then an intelligent decision to pass.

I think Wilf's passing is very underrated. Would Neymar have strongly held off a player who was fouling him before playing a perfectly weighted pass with his weaker foot to set up a one on one (as with Wilf and Williams in the second leg)? No, he would have probably thrown himself to the floor and grabbed his face.

Neymar is a brilliant finisher, though many have simply been seduced by compilation clips (the first superstar of the YouTube generation?). Clearly nobody is suggesting Wilf is as good as Neymar (though, depending on career progressions I think Wilf could reach that level, and I have doubts as to whether Neymar will fit in at Barcelona), but in terms of pure skill and quick feet (of which much of the recent Neymar discussion has focussed on), I think Wilf may be the better player.

Of course we will see next season if he can produce it at the highest levels (he absolutely will, in my opinion), but Wilf often does things which just leave you baffled as to how he did it, even when watching a replay. His feet are ridiculous.
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Just been given permission to leave Barcelona to sort out his futire with his agent who is in Paris.

198m it is just ridiculous.
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Someone on the BBC site posted this... and i really believe it could be true:

'The transfer that ruined football'

198m ... 650k per week. Insanity has become normal.
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Based on what? Poor at the Olympics, very average twice against England (not exactly world class). Untested in Europe. Brazillian domestic football is very poor and people talk about him in the same breath as Messi and Ronaldo.
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I am yet to see what all of the fuss is about (admittedly this is from a few glimpses)
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When i found it i thought the thread was worth a bump for a couple of the comments a few years ago.

You would assume he will be given a decent length contract so if the figures are correct and it is a 5 year contract then the total deal is around 365m!
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Someone on the BBC site posted this... and i really believe it could be true:

'The transfer that ruined football'

198m ... 650k per week. Insanity has become normal.
the Chinese transfer policies in the last year or so have caused far more destruction than the Neymar transfer
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I wouldn't pay more than 180 million for him.
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there was some absolute cobblers written earlier on this thread, the best player in the world for the last year , 52 goals in 77 for Brazil is phenomenal and proportionally better than any international player on the planet.
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He's about five times better than Lukaku to be fair. Also people don't consider how clubs can make their money back through non footballing stuff, and the likes of Neymar and Pogba are marketable and very popular with de youths worldwide.

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there was some absolute cobblers written earlier on this thread, the best player in the world for the last year , 52 goals in 77 for Brazil is phenomenal and proportionally better than any international player on the planet.
Yep as long as he gets no career ending injury he'll break Pele's record no problem.
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Would rather have Messi or Ronaldo over him. Be interesting to see what hes like when the spotlight is on him not Messi
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He needs to have a 35+ goal return, win Ligue Un and get to the Champions League semis for this to be an instant success.

My gut feeling is that all that will change next year is that Messi and Suarez add a few more goals to their individual tallies.
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