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That's a foolhardy loss. Without taking into consideration our promotion. We'd be in profit thanks to player sales over the past two seasons. Thats why we have a sustainable model and thats why we heavily invested in our academy years ago.

Brighton is not. Just imagine the losses when they have to get players like Dunk back. Crowds will dwindle.

If brighton turn down reasonable offers for their players - tgen they are in contempt of th ffp. As that nous will be tightening soon.
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Where's Andy ?

This loss needs an explanation !
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Poyet sacked (probably because he got upset at the budget for this season), Barnes and Bridcutt sold, Obika on loan, Conway and Grabban turning them down.

It's all so clear now.
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Feels better knowing that part of this is down to us. Remember how they gave it large when they finally made it back to the same level as us? I thought they were supposed to have overtaken us by now? Isn't karma a bitch, Seaweed?
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After last years losses, this years accounts were apparently going to show what a big money making club they were. Pie sales were through the roof.

Now it's next years accounts that are going to show massive change, this time with sponsorship deals worth billions that will put them in the black.

Guess time will tell, but Brighton fan predictions aren't proving to be too reliable.
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As ridiculous as it sounds, in the bigger scheme of things I don't think it's that bad really. Selling Ulloa would probably wipe out half of that in one hit.
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Poyet sacked (probably because he got upset at the budget for this season), Barnes and Bridcutt sold, Obika on loan, Conway and Grabban turning them down.

It's all so clear now.
Not just sacked, but sacked live on air. They did that to their greatest ever manager. Pretty cold.

Type of club they are I guess.
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As ridiculous as it sounds, in the bigger scheme of things I don't think it's that bad really. Selling Ulloa would probably wipe out half of that in one hit.
If I was drinking tea it would have just come out my nose.

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As ridiculous as it sounds, in the bigger scheme of things I don't think it's that bad really. Selling Ulloa would probably wipe out half of that in one hit.
He's right. Selling players for 2 or 3 times their worth and replacing them with players of equal ability for free is one way to redress the balance.
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We did try to warn the likes of Andysomething (?) and others that hiring out conference room and making lots of pies, wasnt going to cover their losses. I am sure they will have an excuse for it.

Excluding Zaha sale, ours was 7m?
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Where's Andy ?

This loss needs an explanation !
I'll try, but I don't confess to being any sort of financial expert!

It comes down to the purchase/wages/signing on fees of 10 new first team players (Kuszczak, Ulloa, Bridge, Dobbie, Crofts, Orlandi, Bruno, Upson, Dave, Hammond) plus 2.5m transport fees, player amortisation and stadium depreciation.

We'd do well to try and follow your financial model of promoting youth players and selling off the best of them. At the moment we are trying to do that by picking up other clubs youth cast-offs (Bridcutt, Ince from Chelsea for example). The hope is that we'll be able to keep some of the better youngsters in the area on our books when the new training ground and academy is ready.

Promotion would be a great shortcut, but FFP and parachute payments mean that the PL could well become a closed shop. It could be a long haul, but we're used to that....and thank christ for Tony Bloom!

Expect the next set of accounts to be significantly better though, we are supposedly on target to meet the FFP regulations......only 8m loss this season
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When do you think he will want to see some of his money back , if indeed he does .



Expect the next set of accounts to be significantly better though, we are supposedly on target to meet the FFP regulations......only 8m loss this season
Is that after the sale of bridcutt ?
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"This shows the reality of football in the Championship and demonstrates the very high cost of being competitive," said chief executive Paul Barber.

Which of the other competitive clubs in the Championship have similar losses?
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As far as I can gather he doesn't expect to ever see any of it again, the cash flow is a one way street. Promotion might change that a bit if we ever get there.

Bridcutt's transfer fee will be included in the next set of accounts. After selling him, Barnes, Barker and El-Abd and only paying out transfer fees for Chicksen (250k) and Stephens (700k) we should be a little bit in front there.

Vicente and Bridge off the wage bill will have saved a couple of bob too.
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"This shows the reality of football in the Championship and demonstrates the very high cost of being competitive," said chief executive Paul Barber.

Which of the other competitive clubs in the Championship have similar losses?
Cardiff lost 30m last year, Hull lost 28m, Bolton 50m, Leicester 30m and Blackburn 36m.

These are the only ones I can find at the moment. Staggering isn't it!
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Has he said this is the case?
I believe so. I think the idea is to convert the loans into shares in the football club.
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So, what does 14.7m buy these days?

25,000 plastic clackers?
25,000 'majiko' song sheets?
A steam clean of the away team's dressing room?

For a club who's 'fans' have continually slated Palace for the disasterous financial mis-management of our previous owners, and have accused Palace of 'cheating', I wonder what the opinion of BHAFC fans is now?

Does running a club in a manner that results in an annual loss of nearly 15m
provide evidence that BHAFC remain committed to the Financial Fair Play philosophy? Is it 'fair' to offset such losses through 'one-off exceptional costs' such as the much publicised staff redundancy programme?

Hypocrisy of the highest degree.
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