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Old 22-02-2014, 10:22 AM
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Really ?
Mancs got cs gassed at baker st and it kicked off at the globe on fa cup 1990 first game . Plenty of trouble after replay as well
I was at the Globe when that happened, there was about 30 of us, some wearing Man City stuff, a Man u fan with a distinct London accent had a go at me and took a swing completeky missing and ending up on his arse, i remeber he had a black man u tracksuit on.
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Just a quick thought...

Dwight Gayle's aeroplane goal celebration could be received pretty badly IF he uses it. He's likely completely unaware, but the backlash could be pretty harsh.
I wouldn't worry about this scenario too much.
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Old 22-02-2014, 10:28 AM
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Even so, I dont look at it as an Aeroplane, I see it more as a soaring Eagle.
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Old 22-02-2014, 10:32 AM
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C*ntona was the catalyst for the whole thing
No, the Cantona incident was the catalyst , not Cantona directly himself. It is a subtle and important distinction.

Let the facts get exaggerated so the hatred can continue, so someone else gets killed because of a football game, so as to continue the cycle

It is actually pathetic, and the people who want to hate everyone associated with man Utd because of the actions of a few disgusting morons are probably the ones who have the least right to lecture on how awful what happened to Paul Nixon was as they will be part of the problem if a tragic event like this happens again.
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From what I recall of the reports of his death,the whole incident was very unpleasant and really showed what disgusting scum some people can be. A terrible day for his family.
I remember being down at Selhurst Park to get tickets and being interviewed by Sky about the death. It was a strange atmosphere with Ron Noades saying fans should boycott the replay. My feeling at the time was that some fans did not go in protest at the death but many others didn't go because they didn't think we had a cat in hells chance of winning and around that time we had a fair bit of success and the wider fan base was becoming a little complacent.
A midweek replay at short notice in Birmingham is also a bit tricky for working types. What with this mans death and all the other factors the replay for me was a bit of a low. It reminded me somewhat of the empty feeling I had after the FA cup final replay.
Having said all that, I don't think continuing hostility between the clubs because of this and the Cantona incident will do anybody any good. The best way we can move forward is to get points on the field.
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Old 22-02-2014, 10:38 AM
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No, the Cantona incident was the catalyst , not Cantona directly himself. It is a subtle and important distinction.

Let the facts get exaggerated so the hatred can continue, so someone else gets killed at a football game, so as to continue the cycle

It is actually pathetic, and the people who want to hate everyone associated with man Utd because of the actions of a few disgusting morons are probably the ones who have the least right to lecture on how awful what happened to Paul Nixon was as they will be part of the problem if a tragic event like this happens again.
Cary, you asked me in a pm where I was watching the game and i told you i wont go to a certain pub but only because the sound will be down due to the rugby and i want to hear a wall of noise, I will probably be in Bar Ola with two Man u mates, Steve and Garry, both absolute Gents and Steve kept an eye on things regarding my Mum when i had to go to Jaen last month.
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I didn't know Paul Nixon, but after what happened, I was one of those that couldn't stomach going to the replay. I just didn't have my heart in it.
I see there are Man U fans saying that there was no connection between Paul's death and the Cantona incident. It is highly unlikely that trouble would have flared without that 'kung-fu' kick a few months earlier.
I hope they don't carry out this 'stunt' of wearing Cantona masks today. That would be in very bad taste and I trust the Police will act to put a stop to it.
It should never be forgotten that a man lost his life all those years ago, and his friends and family have had to live with the consequences ever since.
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Cary, you asked me in a pm where I was watching the game and i told you i wont go to a certain pub but only because the sound will be down due to the rugby and i want to hear a wall of noise, I will probably be in Bar Ola with two Man u mates, Steve and Garry, both absolute Gents and Steve kept an eye on things regarding my Mum when i had to go to Jaen last month.
Exactly Gary.

Going to watch the game today with a couple of Man U fans. My son ( he should be Palace) and Keltic Eagles mate. The banter will be fun (well providing we do not lose ) and I am sure even they will be disgusted when Young does a theatrical dive (and he will). Even some Man U fans though loving the team hate Corporate United and what it represents.

I wish people would enjoy football rivalry, even with disliking the opposition without wanting to stir up unhealthy hatred. It belongs in the past.
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There was a court case, but the police and prosecution screwed it up and those responsible got let off.

If you stab someone it has to be attempted murder, but I suppose they couldn't confirm the pikey with a knife.

Man Utd - scumbags, glory hunters, and tourists with a few normal fans to make up the numbers.

Our minibus was sent down a one way street by a know-nothing cop, and we had to turn around sharpish as it was pelted with beer and whatnot from a Manc pub.

Plus, my mate and I walked through several thousand Mancs at the end of the game. Many on walls and car roofs looking for Palace fans to attack. Think of that Millwall video where a group of them attacked one Portsmouth fan coming back to his car with a local woman calling them animals - that's what the Man Utd fans were like. Had one pikey trying to kick it off with us, blaming us for Cantona etc.etc..

Conversation went something like this:

Manc: Your lot got Cantona sent off

Me: No, he got himself sent off for kicking Richard Shaw

Manc: Your fan got him banned

Me: No, he got himself banned by kung fu kicking a spectator

Manc: Well, you're all just a bunch of pikeys

Me: Take a look at yourself mate before calling people pikeys - he wouldn't have looked out of place in Shameless.

My Mate: Look behind you (full of Mancs), he nods to a side turning, and we escape sharpish.

Could have turned out very nasty for us.
In the mini bus I'm sure we retaliated by throwing your porn mag out the window at them, which was an astute move by me, since they all started fighting amongst themselves to get it, a cunning escape - me thinks
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No, the Cantona incident was the catalyst , not Cantona directly himself. It is a subtle and important distinction.

Let the facts get exaggerated so the hatred can continue, so someone else gets killed because of a football game, so as to continue the cycle

It is actually pathetic, and the people who want to hate everyone associated with man Utd because of the actions of a few disgusting morons are probably the ones who have the least right to lecture on how awful what happened to Paul Nixon was as they will be part of the problem if a tragic event like this happens again.
Too true - hatred was a sign of the times and I for one don't miss it. It's understandable younger Palace fans are curious but let's hope football has learnt from the tragedies of the past
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More like semantics

C*ntona doesnt jump into the crowd, no animosity at the semi final

Simmons did nothing more than other fans do at grounds up and down the country every single matchday

C*ntona, did something no professional footballer has ever done before or since AFAIK
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More like semantics
Hardly, it is a very vital difference and one of the ways fuels hatred the other takes a common sense approach.

I know what the sensible and correct way to view it is.

What did Simmons say that was what so normal and therefore acceptable in your eyes?
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Hardly, it is a very vital difference and one of the ways fuels hatred the other takes a common sense approach.

I know what the sensible and correct way to view it is.

What did Simmons say that was what so normal and therefore acceptable in your eyes?
**** off you French bastard

Perfectly acceptable in my eyes
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What should have happened is the Club should have asked the FA for another weeks pause before the replay, and given people time to reflect.
If my memory serves, Noades did ask the FA for a delay out of respect but they refused, which is why he was saying we should boycott the replay.
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Hardly, it is a very vital difference and one of the ways fuels hatred the other takes a common sense approach.

I know what the sensible and correct way to view it is.

What did Simmons say that was what so normal and therefore acceptable in your eyes?
C*ntona jumped into the crowd

No one made him, he chose to do that after being sent off for violent conduct (and had he left the pitch promptly as he should have none of it would have happened)

Simmons shouted some abuse at him, no idea exactly what he said, I was in the AW at the time but I guarantee it wasnt anything worse than at least 10,000 others were shouting at him that night

It is an 'incident' initiated by C*ntona, no one else
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Wasn't just up there. We had a row with pikey mancs in a pub in Croydon.
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This brings back dark memories and reminds me why I hate Manchester ******* United. My worst moment in football that day.
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