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Basically, Burnley are what we were then... Except their 20 goal striker won't have torn ligaments to come back from, and they have a tactically astute, motivating, young manager.

Fortunately for them they have two 20-goal strikers...

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Basically, Burnley are what we were then... Except their 20 goal striker won't have torn ligaments to come back from, and they have a tactically astute, motivating, young manager.
Who will probably be sacked by December in the premier league
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Basically, Burnley are what we were then... Except their 20 goal striker won't have torn ligaments to come back from, and they have a tactically astute, motivating, young manager.
You say that, Sam Vokes ruptured his ligaments on the weekend and is out for several months. Danny Ings is still injured.

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Opps i was very late with the Vokes comment.
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They'll all have cash and if they spend it right will have a chance of staying up .

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The Championship is a lot less comeptitive this season.

Last year, at this stage the teams which got relegated had 39,45 and 45 points (Barnsley escaped from 44) and this the bottom 3 are on 35 or less. Last year the 3 relegated clubs scored 159 goals by this stage, currently it is 112.

So are the bottom clubs getting worse or the top sides getting significantly better?

Leiceter and Burnley have scored 74 and 64 goals, whereas at this stage last year Cardiff and Hull had 61 and 56.

The 2 sides who are likely to get up automatically are doing so by scoring goals, by being attacking - that rarely works in the PL for newly promoted sides where grinding out results defensively is often more successful.

At this point last year only Watford had scored more goals than us, we tried playing an attacking form of football, open an exciting at the start of this season....
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Old 02-04-2014, 09:57 AM
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Not true, we look like we will survive now, and we totally screwed everything.
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There are lessons from all three promoted clubs last season.

Credit to the owners for giving Pearson the time to get them up. If they continue to support him, like Hull has supported Bruce, they will do well, but if they get ideas above their station, like Cardiff, then they will go straight back down.

However, if they find Pearson can't cope like Holloway, they will be very lucky to find a replacement who can save their season like what we have done.
Good post.

However, the real test of the owners expectations will come next season, like so many before they think the club deserves to be in the top 10, if not, the managers head ends up on the chopping block.
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Not true, we look like we will survive now, and we totally screwed everything.
Just less than probably Fulham Cardiff Sunderland/west brom by the looks of it

The decision to bring in an experienced premier league manager instead of (take ur pick) a man utd coach, a Uruguayan with no premier league managerial experience (though picking di canio probably did more harm ) , and a host of other managers who haven't managed here looks like it may keep us up
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However, the real test of the owners expectations will come next season, like so many before they think the club deserves to be in the top 10, if not, the managers head ends up on the chopping block.
I don't envisage that being an issue here for a few years but ultimately tgere comes a time (stoke) where change is needed for several reasons
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Just less than probably Fulham Cardiff Sunderland/west brom by the looks of it

The decision to bring in an experienced premier league manager instead of (take ur pick) a man utd coach, a Uruguayan with no premier league managerial experience (though picking di canio probably did more harm ) , and a host of other managers who haven't managed here looks like it may keep us up
It's interesting that no club has signed a player(s) who has had a transformative impact on their season. In fact (and perhaps unsurprisingly) the appointment of the manager appears to be the key differentiator.
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It's interesting that no club has signed a player(s) who has had a transformative impact on their season. In fact (and perhaps unsurprisingly) the appointment of the manager appears to be the key differentiator.
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In fairness to big Sam he said west ham would pick up points when Carroll was back and that has all but secured their status. I think they'd still be looking over their shoulder were he still injured
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In fairness to big Sam he said west ham would pick up points when Carroll was back and that has all but secured their status. I think they'd still be looking over their shoulder were he still injured
didn't they win those 4 games in a row when Carroll got that red card
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I wouldn't mind Leicester, Burnley and Ipswich promoted on the basis that I find fans of those clubs, on the whole, amiable peoples!

On the other hand Leeds, QPR, and Brighton can stay where they are
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didn't they win those 4 games in a row when Carroll got that red card
And still wernt clear. He got sent off at 2-0 up in that game also iirc. I think he's a big influence on that team. ( should be at the cost though )

They will pick up more wins with him back and fit
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I honestly don't think you can predict how well a team coming up will do in the PL. There is no formula that accounts for players not hitting the heights they looked set to in the championship, and equally, players playing at a level you didn't think they were capable of.

Storming to promotion rarely means a heck of a lot the following season. We went down the season after winning the league. Reading did last season and it looks quite probable that Cardiff will this season. QPR scraped survival once after demolishing the championship only to be easily relegated the following year. Player for player that QPR side that went up was as good as any that won the league in recent seasons (save for perhaps Newcastle).

I look forward to seeing the likes of Leicester and Burnley up in the Prem next season so long as we stay there to play them!
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Thanks for the updates on 'super Kev'. Leicester have certainly had the right approach with supporting their manager, Burnley may struggle to get the same level of backing. Rather these two than the like of Blackburn Leeds and Bolton
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Well done Leicester, they've had a great season.
The days of writing off promoted teams as relegation certainties are long gone now. They'll probably have a tough season, but stand just as good a chance of survival as 7 or 8 other sides who will be in next season's Prem.
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Not a chance.

Cardiff last year won the title but at no point really did they string together a series of brilliant performances. They relied on scraping narrow, often lucky wins. So it's not a massive surprise that they are struggling this year, when compounded with off the field issues.

Hull were about as good as Cardiff last year but had to invest very heavily to get to where they are now - they spent 27m this season.

We were extremely poor in the run up to the play-offs. Not sure anyone expected anyone bar Zaha (albeit for another team), Ward and Jedinak to comprehensively make the step up. The players as it turns out, have coped well and been helped by Pulis' setup, but I really don't think the likes of Delaney, Dikgacoi, Bolasie etc are clear Premier League players. They're decent Championship players playing above themselves.

Would expect Leicester to end up comfortably mid-table next season, around 13th-14th or so, perhaps higher.

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I honestly don't think you can predict how well a team coming up will do in the PL. There is no formula that accounts for players not hitting the heights they looked set to in the championship, and equally, players playing at a level you didn't think they were capable of.

Storming to promotion rarely means a heck of a lot the following season. We went down the season after winning the league. Reading did last season and it looks quite probable that Cardiff will this season. QPR scraped survival once after demolishing the championship only to be easily relegated the following year. Player for player that QPR side that went up was as good as any that won the league in recent seasons (save for perhaps Newcastle).

I look forward to seeing the likes of Leicester and Burnley up in the Prem next season so long as we stay there to play them!
You can, sort of, predict how well a team will do based off historical info. We know for example, how many less points/GD a team has upon promotion, on average. Obviously there will be fluctuations around these numbers but on average you can use it as a good predictor.

I don't think promoted team performance is really as random as people assume. The thing about all those title winners who faltered the following year, is that they often were getting very lucky in their promotion season. Reading of two years ago were often getting outplayed but getting lucky wins. Same for Cardiff last year. When Derby went up they weren't very good at all, again, scraping together fortunate wins. They all ran out of luck the next season. The QPR side you mention wasn't much to do with the players of the prior season but the awful transfer strategy the following years.

Leicester have stormed the league not just by getting results but by having performances befitting of their results as well, unlike the likes of Reading and Cardiff. That's why I'd be very surprised if they do anywhere near as badly as those sides did.
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