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Old 08-05-2014, 12:29 PM
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Will Cardiff even consider doing business with us?
Can they afford not to?

In the season they were promoted they lost 30m and their net debt went up to 118m.

This season they spent a significant amount in transfer fees, their wage bill was much higher than ours and with other costs i cannot see how the income, even at PL levels, finishing bottom will mean anything other than another loss this season.

They will then carry that signifcant wage bill down and the parachute payments will not cover it so selling players for a cash injection and reducing their wage bill is an absolute must for them.

If we are in for one of their players they will have to do business with us or Tan has to risk losing millions more - how many more million is he prepared to lose?
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Caulker is a decent player and under the tutelage of a decent manager would be very good. However because he is a young English player playing regular premier league football he will come with a MASSIVE price tag. And for that reason alone I would avoid unless Cardiff are prepared to take a huge loss for him. 2-3m maximum IMO considering Dann was around 1.5m.

Had Leicester not come up would have LOVED to had Wes Morgan and think we could have gotten him for 3m (worth the money IMO) but alas that is out of the window. I'm sure the scouts for Palace have been scaling far and wide to find us a very very very good CB.
Been suggesting him for years, very good on the ground and in the air. Had Falcao in his pocket when Monaco came over for pre season.
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Good player but not worth 8m.

Think his goals scored may also mask some of his defensive errors.
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Wouldn't be against this...
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Don't get it unless we are changing the way we defend.
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Old 15-06-2014, 09:27 AM
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He will have better offers, I think.
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Oh and he's not worth 8million
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8m is a lot of money, nah.
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If Pulis feels it's worth it then I am backing him 100%. I'd like to see us go in for Craig Dawson though.
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The only thing that could make it a possibility is his resale value. Using linked players as the example...

Cresswell 4m
Caulker 8m
Zaha 5m
Livermore 6.5m

Plus a striker I would imagine

23.5m sounds like a crazy amount for us to spend on 4 players. But... We are in the premiership, we do have the cash and that would really really give us a very very good squad. Should the worst happen we would get half our money back I'm sure, probably a lot more. It's a big cash outlay but the value of our assets would increase accordingly. I think wages would likely be more of an issue. Can we get those sort of players in within our budget... No idea but I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple of big fees paid this summer
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I maybe wrong but think the 8m figure comes from the Daily Mirror. I am not sure if they peddle similar twaddle about other clubs but they seemed to be trying to wind up Palace fans with utter drivel towards the end of the season.
If you read some absurd story about Palace this summer just check to see if the source was the Daily Mirror before taking it in the least bit seriously.
In a world where football transfer rubbish is peddled almost daily it takes effort to come out with the most tosh but the Daily Mirror seems to stand head and shoulders above other British papers.

Thankfully we have a month of the World Cup before the football scribblers get back to rumours about Premiership clubs and players which is a massive relief.
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Only 22 and will get better. Was class at Swansea, will have much better protection here than he did at Cardiff, think Pulis will get the best out of him.

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Would be good. Great age and cardiffs only player who didn't embarrass themselves last season. He's good.
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I maybe wrong but think the 8m figure comes from the Daily Mirror. I am not sure if they peddle similar twaddle about other clubs but they seemed to be trying to wind up Palace fans with utter drivel towards the end of the season.
If you read some absurd story about Palace this summer just check to see if the source was the Daily Mirror before taking it in the least bit seriously.
In a world where football transfer rubbish is peddled almost daily it takes effort to come out with the most tosh but the Daily Mirror seems to stand head and shoulders above other British papers.

Thankfully we have a month of the World Cup before the football scribblers get back to rumours about Premiership clubs and players which is a massive relief.
It's from the Sunday People.

Two players for 14.5m? Unlikely I would say. We paid 6.5m for Gayle, so I could see us signing someone for more than that but it doesn't sit comfortably when the two players for that price are Jake Livermore and Steven Caulker. Good players no doubt, but highly inflated prices.
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It's from the Sunday People.

Two players for 14.5m? Unlikely I would say. We paid 6.5m for Gayle, so I could see us signing someone for more than that but it doesn't sit comfortably when the two players for that price are Jake Livermore and Steven Caulker. Good players no doubt, but highly inflated prices.
It's a little misleading to claim we paid 6.5 for Gayle - the upfront fee was nowhere near that figure. Lots of add ons included many of which may not be realised.

I don't think it will be the finances that prevent this but difficult to see Caulker not having better options than us.
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It's a little misleading to claim we paid 6.5 for Gayle - the upfront fee was nowhere near that figure. Lots of add ons included many of which may not be realised.

I don't think it will be the finances that prevent this but difficult to see Caulker not having better options than us.
The upfront fee was 6.5m but this isn't the thread for that.

I agree that finances won't dictate this, but rumour has it Liverpool want Caulker. Not sure on him personally though. I wouldn't object if we signed him of course.
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The upfront fee was 6.5m but this isn't the thread for that.

I agree that finances won't dictate this, but rumour has it Liverpool want Caulker. Not sure on him personally though. I wouldn't object if we signed him of course.
It really wasn't 6.5 million upfront. If it had been it would represent the single worst transfer decision of all time.
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