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Old 28-06-2014, 05:36 AM
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100yrs ago today... Start of World War 1

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Will be heading back to France next Summer on the 100 anniversary of when my Great Grandad got shot, and revisiting the grave of another relative in October who was killed whilst earning a bravery award/recognition
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Old 28-06-2014, 06:58 AM
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Earlier this year I visited the field where my grandfather was wounded and captured back in September 1914. Taken POW and died of his wounds 4 months later.

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Thanks for posting. Princip was held here in Terezin and you can visit his cell. Such an incongruous space that housed the man that initiated such seismic events. You can almost taste the history when you are in there.
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BREAKING NEWS: There has been an explosion near the archduke's motorcade.

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It's not clear what caused it. Witnesses say there was a loud bang and the archduke's car moved off quickly.

There is no word on any casualties.
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Wouldnt it have been a great legacy to have the human race say we learnt not to solve our problems by sacrificing so many lives ever again . Sadly we have a long long way to go before that will happen .. The lest we forget euphomism hardly seems appropriate because we have forgotten . I prefer we shall remember them .
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It was the single stupidest deed that the ruling classes of the human race has ever perpetrated, the effects of which are still felt today.
Unfortunately, the lessons we learn seem to have little effect on those who continue to put their own interests and power base before the common good.
I have to ask myself what all those soldiers died for beside supporting their comrades in arms, not to mention all the civilians who were needlessly killed while just going about their business.
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Private Baldrick: I heard that it started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich 'cause he was hungry.

Captain Blackadder: I think you mean it started when the Archduke of Austro-Hungary got shot.

Private Baldrick: Nah, there was definitely an ostrich involved, sir.

Captain Blackadder: Well, possibly. But the real reason for the whole thing was that it was too much effort not to have a war.

Lieutenant George: By Gum, this is interesting. I always loved history. The Battle of Hastings, Henry VIII and his six knives, all that.

Captain Blackadder: You see, Baldrick, in order to prevent war in Europe, two superarmies developed: us, the French and the Russians on one side, and the Germans and Austro-Hungary on the other. The idea was to have two vast opposing armies, each acting as the other's deterrent. That way there could never be a war.

Private Baldrick: But, this is a sort of a war, isn't it, sir?

Captain Blackadder: Yes, that's right. You see, there was a tiny flaw in the plan.

Private Baldrick: What was that, sir?

Captain Blackadder: It was bollocks.

Private Baldrick: So the poor old ostrich died for nothing then.
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If you have the time then these pod-casts are worth listening to....

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Over 9 hours worth and whilst they are unashamedly populist (which also makes them very accessible) they make for great listening and, at least in my opinion, really bring home just how much of a shock not only the war was but the sheer scale of the slaughter, especially in the first couple of months. Real impact history.

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True, but how could we have stopped hitler (different war I know) without violence? Wasn't it morally right for the USA to go into Yugoslavia and Somalia?some wars need more violence to stop further violence.unfortunately, some wars are a boon to certain industries. Just out of interest, and not condoning the deaths, I wonder what the population of the world would be if we hadn't had two world wars
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BBC2 is covering the ceremony in Belgium now. Worth watching, brings a tear to the eye. Both sides of the conflict standing side by side.
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Another great article from Paul Mason, this time on what caused the end of the war:

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"The war to end all wars" was declared after armistice.

Sad to think that in the 100 years since there's been so many bloody and needless wars. Its has been this way for as long as human history has existed but the loss of life so needlessly is always so tragic when one reflects on it all.
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Sad to think that in the 100 years since there's been so many bloody and needless wars. Its has been this way for as long as human history has existed but the loss of life so needlessly is always so tragic when one reflects on it all.
Yes I agree. My uncle was gassed in the 1st World War, and many other distant relatives died in the trenches.
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