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Old 09-02-2018, 10:39 AM
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I don't see how it helps at all. THAT is a huge part of the problem. To replace them we need (probably all of them need replacing) they need to bring in new players at today's fees and today's wages. It accentuates the problem. It doesn't EPL the regs. It helps reshape the squad from a player type/etc. IT is the problem I am referencing. So to fund that within FPP/STCC in a latter year in the FPP cycle and within the STCC sounds a challenge. We should get Wickham for free and that's the only plus. So to fund that, primarily within the regs but maybe cash flow too even I could see we need to sell players that we can make a profit on. I don't have the actual numbers other than the 13 but I don't see how it can avoid it. Arguably if we did get relegated it 'solves' it or makes it easier but a whole lot of other things collapse.
I thought STCC was to do with wages primarily? Therefore if we strip the club of a lot of high-earners and bring in younger players on lower salaries we should be ok? We appear to be in a great position with so many players out of contract, and the bulk of our best players under contract. We should be able to significantly improve the squad and stay within FFP and STCC.
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Old 09-02-2018, 12:17 PM
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I don't see how it helps at all. THAT is a huge part of the problem. To replace them we need (probably all of them need replacing) they need to bring in new players at today's fees and today's wages. It accentuates the problem. It doesn't EPL the regs. It helps reshape the squad from a player type/etc. IT is the problem I am referencing. So to fund that within FPP/STCC in a latter year in the FPP cycle and within the STCC sounds a challenge. We should get Wickham for free and that's the only plus. So to fund that, primarily within the regs but maybe cash flow too even I could see we need to sell players that we can make a profit on. I don't have the actual numbers other than the 13 but I don't see how it can avoid it. Arguably if we did get relegated it 'solves' it or makes it easier but a whole lot of other things collapse.


It helps. For example... cabaye on £100k a week will be gone... letís say Amadou comes in.. we offered him a deal in region if £50k a week (apparently allegedly).. much younger.. cheaper contract arguably could be as good if not better. Sako in 65k a week... etc etc
If we do this, add him some young talent to replace outgoing aging players then we can easily me under stcc. The issue we had is we had to over pay for players to come to us in first two seasons.. now if we stay up we are more attractive.

Selling wilf... we would need to spend that money and more to replace him. Not worth it.
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Didnít say I fell for it, just posting what I was told. He definitely knows Wilfs agent whether itís a load of rubbish I donít know.
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Old 09-02-2018, 03:41 PM
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It helps. For example... cabaye on £100k a week will be gone... letís say Amadou comes in.. we offered him a deal in region if £50k a week (apparently allegedly).. much younger.. cheaper contract arguably could be as good if not better. Sako in 65k a week... etc etc
If we do this, add him some young talent to replace outgoing aging players then we can easily me under stcc. The issue we had is we had to over pay for players to come to us in first two seasons.. now if we stay up we are more attractive.

Selling wilf... we would need to spend that money and more to replace him. Not worth it.
I can't think how to say this another way but that sounds very naive or optimistic at best.

So even if Cabaye does earn £100k. (I thought it was somewhere between £65k and £85k.) and lets say we can bring in 2 players for that cost and hope one of them is as good. Cool - but what about the other 11/12 or so. They most definitely are NOT on £100k and you need to re-sign some of them or replace them. I don't see how that is going to come in cheaper. i.e. what new player is willing to come in on a salary that was fair 3 years ago and for how long?

2 different lists total the players potentially leaving at around 400k per week total. So you have to replace 12 ish players including some of which will replace Cabaye, McArthur (i.e. 6/7 were in last week's matchday squad and 3 others would have been if fit). If you do the maths, that's going to be very tough. Any of them that we want and agree to stay are likely to want more.

The big money players are Townsend, Sakho, Benteke and Wilf and Cabaye.

Not suggesting I want to sell Wilf, more fearing that the pressure increases even if we stay up. Can see more foreign loans coming in.
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Got a confession. Pretty much love Wilf in equal measure as CPFC as a whole.

When West Ham fans tainted him at Selhurst it felt like my own son (I don’t have one) was being bullied at school.

When he scored the equaliser in the 9 thousandth minute it was like watching one of those vids on YouTube when the fat kid finally loses his shit and smacks the gobby little c*** up (one that’s bullied him) that’s been abusing him.

When he scored the equaliser against Chelsea away last season (the goal before Benteke scored straight after) I actually started f***ing crying. Wwttfffff
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It helps. For example... cabaye on £100k a week will be gone... letís say Amadou comes in.. we offered him a deal in region if £50k a week (apparently allegedly).. much younger.. cheaper contract arguably could be as good if not better. Sako in 65k a week... etc etc
If we do this, add him some young talent to replace outgoing aging players then we can easily me under stcc. The issue we had is we had to over pay for players to come to us in first two seasons.. now if we stay up we are more attractive.

Selling wilf... we would need to spend that money and more to replace him. Not worth it.
i think you will find that 100k a week for 3 years is a lot less than 50k a week for 3 years plus 18 transfer fee.
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huge blow for us, really is no way to replace him and we have no competent cover - terrible last two transfer windows, poor Roy.
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Sooooo you believe the guardian more than, Roy, the Club and Wilf huh....interesting choice

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We haven’t won a game without Zaha since September 2016. That’s our season finished. This is why you need to sign decent backups Steve.
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We havenít won a game without Zaha since September 2016. Thatís our season finished. This is why you need to sign decent backups Steve.
If we go down. It will be because of our last two transfer windows. Itís been blatantly obvious what positions needed filling. Itís bordering on negligence that we didnít get a Forward/Goalkeeper in the summer. Then we had the recent one to get in reinforcements and again, it was a huge disappointment. Cheers Parish, youíve really played a blinder, Roy must be well chuffed.
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If we go down. It will be because of our last two transfer windows. Itís been blatantly obvious what positions needed filling. Itís bordering on negligence that we didnít get a Forward/Goalkeeper in the summer. Then we had the recent one to get in reinforcements and again, it was a huge disappointment. Cheers Parish, youíve really played a blinder, Roy must be well chuffed.
Incoming.

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I do not know how anyone could disagree sadly
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If we go down. It will be because of our last two transfer windows. Itís been blatantly obvious what positions needed filling. Itís bordering on negligence that we didnít get a Forward/Goalkeeper in the summer. Then we had the recent one to get in reinforcements and again, it was a huge disappointment. Cheers Parish, youíve really played a blinder, Roy must be well chuffed.
Agree. Said much the same previously. Hard to believe a Premier League club can be run so badly at times. Reminds me of the old Sunday league days when you get there and find out you only have one striker today or no keeper, only we are playing in the richest league in the world.
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We need to learn to play without him. I think we've been far too predictable with Wilf in the team.
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He was always our ONLY player. We are NOTHING without him. Not even going to score a ******* goal.
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So, we really are a one man team.
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