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Old 04-12-2017, 10:17 AM
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So if TFM goes back to Man U in January ( as rumoured) and Ward gets injured/ suspended, who do we play at right back ?
Tomkins and Kelly could both play there and have done in the PL.
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Old 04-12-2017, 10:20 AM
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why would we let TFM go back to Man Utd?
To bring in a player on loan who will play in our first XI?
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Old 04-12-2017, 11:58 AM
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why would we let TFM go back to Man Utd? Ultimately, as much as I admire Ward's professionalism and solid defending, he needs replacing if we want to progress to having full backs who are attacking and comfortable on the ball. As for Joel Ward, he's been superb since Tottenham, and deserves to keep his place at right back for now.
So we can use the loan for another forward because if you think we are short at the back take a look up front
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Old 04-12-2017, 12:04 PM
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So we can use the loan for another forward because if you think we are short at the back take a look up front
Bit unnecessary just because he disagrees with you. Can we at least try to start the week being vaguely respectful of each other.
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Had interesting conversation last night which really endorses how much Roy is respected by the players. Ward has a better offer on the table now but would likely leave still if it wasn't for Roy and find's himself in a bit of a dilemma. Btw he's out for another 2 weeks having aggravated his injury in training.
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Old 05-01-2018, 10:08 AM
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I could only see him going to about 3/4 Prem teams and none are in much of a better position than us
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Old 05-01-2018, 10:16 AM
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Despite his recent improvement we still need an upgrade.
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Old 05-01-2018, 10:19 AM
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Despite his recent improvement we still need an upgrade.
Think we have one in TMF and really hope we sign him up permanently in the summer. Id keep Ward as excellent squad player and improves the bench. Imo we need ward in the squad as players like him really get the club.
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If Joel left and TFM leaves after his loan - we'll have 0 actual RBs...
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If Joel left and TFM leaves after his loan - we'll have 0 actual RBs...
Fancy finding yourself with no Right backs. No team would allow themselves to end up with no players for a whole position.
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I don't think TFM is a better defender than Ward, yet. He may become one - he has the talent.
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Think it would be an odd decision for him not to sign personally.

Roy rates him very highly, remember speaking to Ray L during their England days and he said they were watching him very closely and wasn't far from a call up.

As said before where does he think he would get to go? The big clubs aren't going to want him, that leaves he likes of Everton, Southampton, Leicester, West Ham who I would personally feel are either at the same or a similar level to us anyway, but then would any of them want him?

Everton - maybe? Does Sam rate him? Suspect with the money they have they will have bigger fish...
Leicester - Have Danny Simpson, why leave to be a backup?
Southampton - Former Pompey boy, surely not!
West Ham - Maybe, but don't see any reason why they would want him over anyone else!
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yep... and we have done since we joined the prem.

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Had interesting conversation last night which really endorses how much Roy is respected by the players. Ward has a better offer on the table now but would likely leave still if it wasn't for Roy and find's himself in a bit of a dilemma. Btw he's out for another 2 weeks having aggravated his injury in training.
Thanks for this. When you say he has a better offer on the table now, do you mean an improved offer from us or an offer from another team?

From my perspective, the fact that players like Joel Ward - a consummate professional I hasten to add - would want to leave to play regular football shows how difficult it is to develop a decent squad if you are not in the top 6. Sad for him that he's out for another 2 weeks, but I hope that means TFM is given an opportunity to cement his place at right back. If Ward moves on we are going to need two right backs in the summer, assuming we can't do a deal for TFM.
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If Joel left and TFM leaves after his loan - we'll have 0 actual RBs...
This. I would love us to sign TFM permanently (not impossible as I have doubts he will make it at Manure) as he is young and also offers a different option to Ward (different types of full backs) However Ward was playing well until the injury and is always a steadying presence at the back. Not one of the best full backs in the league, if he was we wouldn't have him, but the sort of player we would miss if he was gone.

I also don't fully understand the post about his future, does he have a better offer from elsewhere or an improved offer from us?
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He's had a 'better' offer? Does that mean we've offered him a deal?

Get him signed up. He's excellent for us. If we can get an upgrade great, but if not he's solid. If he left we could easily be weaker at th next season
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Thanks for this. When you say he has a better offer on the table now, do you mean an improved offer from us or an offer from another team?

From my perspective, the fact that players like Joel Ward - a consummate professional I hasten to add - would want to leave to play regular football shows how difficult it is to develop a decent squad if you are not in the top 6. Sad for him that he's out for another 2 weeks, but I hope that means TFM is given an opportunity to cement his place at right back. If Ward moves on we are going to need two right backs in the summer, assuming we can't do a deal for TFM.
Improved offer from us.
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