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Old 22-01-2016, 05:42 PM
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Old 22-01-2016, 05:45 PM
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Probably talking about his downward spiral - away to start now.

And Yes I know I spelt his name wrong - for shame
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At least we're helping him whereas Arsenal left him out in the cold
Not true Arsenal have tried to help him on numerous occasions but Kenny has to want to get better himself.
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Old 22-01-2016, 06:13 PM
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Funnily enough, I thought it would've made for a good drinking game between Palace and Arsenal fans watching: take a shot whenever your football team's mentioned. QPR, Millwall, West Ham, and even Gillingham could join in.

The only thing I really cringed at, was when he said he was unemployed, but had work on Saturday at Palace for Palace-West Ham. When Jeremy Kyle shook his head, saying he won't be around for it, Samson tried to laugh it off, as though it was meant in football bantering terms (Kyle being a West Ham fan).

Other than that, I thought it was fine. One thing that did irritate me was that he was always going to go into rehab; he just needed to get the Palace gig on Saturday out of the way. It was obvious.
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Old 22-01-2016, 06:29 PM
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Not true Arsenal have tried to help him on numerous occasions but Kenny has to want to get better himself.
Lots of people have reached out in the past to offer Kenny help
He's Been in rehab 4 times

Maybe this time will be the one I hope so as its a progressive illness

We don't shoot the wounded in recovery

It's sad and frustrating sometimes for people to see the powerlessness over other people's addictions

That's the nature of the beast Denial

While someone is still alive there is always hope . There is no such thing as a hopeless case.
Not everyone makes it though with addiction, some people run out of time and chances. Sad as there is a way out. But we all carry a message recovery or death and destruction.

If drinking is costing you more than money then you have a problem it's also not a competition to see who has the worst problem

People won't stop drinking or using unless it's hitting one of the 4 L's
Liver , ie your health
Lover , ie relationships
Livelihood, ie job
Law, ie getting arrested

For a lot it's hitting all 4

There still lyes a stigma in society around mental illness, addiction, try and have some compassion addiction is non discrimatory and affects a lot of families

I've buried many friends over the years plenty of Palace mates RIP them
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Old 22-01-2016, 06:30 PM
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people who judge alcoholics often just do not understand it as a disease. Its about as helpful as telling a fella in a wheelchair to get up and dance....just plain ignorant
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people who judge alcoholics often just do not understand it as a disease. Its about as helpful as telling a fella in a wheelchair to get up and dance....just plain ignorant
True

You can't shame or bully people into recovery either yes it is frustrating to be around , people in active addiction can be very messy and painful

No one asks to be born with the hand of addiction it's about 1 in 10 of the adult population , but if you have it you can do something about it. Taking responsibility and leading by example is a powerful tool.
The only people who know how it feels and how to recover are people that have been through the process themselves, they share there Experience not there Opinion.
It's not often I speak to people about addiction and find that not many people don't have someone in there family that has not been affected somehow.
There's a lot of hurt and anger from people affected by others drinking using in society
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I would say being pictured pissed out of your nut, homeless in a park was worse, the show has seemed to have helped him, he has personally thanked both Kyle and the shows help.
This ^^^^^ the fact KS is now 3 months sober is an astonishing achievement for him. i work at Sainsburys locksbootom and staff are told to refuse to sell him any alcohol .
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Kenny loves palace been with him to a few games
He's doing well, over 3 months Sober now, it's a good start.

As with any Alcoholic stopping isn't the problem it's staying stopped
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There's also no mention in his book about what Liverpool won whilst he was at 'The Arsenal' winning a solitary Littlewoods Cup. He could've gone to Anfield but chose pissing it up with Adams and Merse over endless trophies. Google it.

And yes, Palace are skipped over with undue haste in his book.

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