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Old 12-02-2017, 12:30 PM
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History , What comes around

Having watched Palace for over 50 years where we are is no real surprise.
Whenever we have had money to spend we have wasted it, any body remember Mike Flanaghan to name one of many.
When we sell we get mugged off , Kenny Sansom , David Price etc etc.
When money was tight we came up with the likes of Andy Gray, Rachid Harcouk ,Jeff Bourne and of course AJ the list is endless.
There are always exceptions, in recent times Bolassie for instance, but was the money spent wisely, time will tell.
I know times change but look at what we have ended up with now.
Lets prey its not a QPR scenario , at the moment it looks too similar for my liking.
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Old 12-02-2017, 12:35 PM
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On paper, we had a good window

2 left sided players we were crying out for

A big strong presence at the back

A physical no nonsense midfielder

Characters who will fight for the cause, at the moment we're on life support, but the last rites have not been read.

A more pragmatic approach will have to be taken in the summer mind.
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Having watched Palace for over 50 years where we are is no real surprise.
Whenever we have had money to spend we have wasted it, any body remember Mike Flanaghan to name one of many.
When we sell we get mugged off , Kenny Sansom , David Price etc etc.
When money was tight we came up with the likes of Andy Gray, Rachid Harcouk ,Jeff Bourne and of course AJ the list is endless.
There are always exceptions, in recent times Bolassie for instance, but was the money spent wisely, time will tell.
I know times change but look at what we have ended up with now.
Lets prey its not a QPR scenario , at the moment it looks too similar for my liking.
50 years ago we were founder members of the fourth division!

As a club we are seriously handicapped by an obsolete cramped ground and Div 2 infrastructure but we continually punch above our weight. Expectations by a lot of our fans are unreasonable. I am proud of our achievements and nurse the somewhat forlorn hope (now) that we will grow and develop into a major club.

We have sold well recently and most of the players you mention would never have got a chance in the current Premiership, however, like you I pray we do not end up like QPR
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Old 16-02-2017, 10:19 AM
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As a club we are seriously handicapped by an obsolete cramped ground and Div 2 infrastructure but we continually punch above our weight. Expectations by a lot of our fans are unreasonable. I am proud of our achievements and nurse the somewhat forlorn hope (now) that we will grow and develop into a major club.
The ground isn't really a handicap. We could have a brand new 45,000 seat stadium but the extra income would be wiped out just by finishing a few places lower in the league. There's no reason we can't compete with any of the sides who don't regularly qualify for the Champions League, apart from our scattergun approach and lack of due diligence when it comes to transfers.
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Old 16-02-2017, 10:24 AM
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How can our ground be obsolete if we are still happily using it.

The only thing wrong with our ground is how much the opposition like it.

Would hate an out of town soulless bowl
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Old 16-02-2017, 10:28 AM
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You learn by your mistakes hopefully it won't be too much of a bitter pill to swallow with relegation at the end of the season but nothing is lost just yet. We have every chance of staying up.

As fans at this time, I think it's 'best' to look forward rather than backwards. That can be done in the summer.
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How can our ground be obsolete if we are still happily using it.

The only thing wrong with our ground is how much the opposition like it.

Would hate an out of town soulless bowl
After going to Stoke I agree. Selhurst is not great and I would love for a new stand or something however these bowls are terrible. Reading last year was half decent but mainly because of the atmosphere.
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How can our ground be obsolete if we are still happily using it.

The only thing wrong with our ground is how much the opposition like it.

Would hate an out of town soulless bowl
You might be happy with it, I'm not! I used the word obsolete in the sense that it is out of date and needs rebuilding or replacing. Even the chairman agrees with that.

I was not suggesting an out of town bowl.
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How can our ground be obsolete if we are still happily using it.

The only thing wrong with our ground is how much the opposition like it.

Would hate an out of town soulless bowl
I used to dream of having a state of the art stadium in CP Park.

Having been to places like the London Stadium, Emirates and seeing the nonsense that Spurs have planned for their new stadium I couldn't think of anything worse.
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50 years ago we were founder members of the fourth division!

As a club we are seriously handicapped by an obsolete cramped ground and Div 2 infrastructure but we continually punch above our weight. Expectations by a lot of our fans are unreasonable. I am proud of our achievements and nurse the somewhat forlorn hope (now) that we will grow and develop into a major club.

We have sold well recently and most of the players you mention would never have got a chance in the current Premiership, however, like you I pray we do not end up like QPR
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I was not suggesting an out of town bowl.
There is no other option. Its cost effective and maximises capacity to have bowl stadium.

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If we do go down, it will be an wasted opportunity bordering on the criminal !
We had to invest in the team year on year otherwise we wouldnt have lasted more than one year.
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You cant have both, you have to choose: Character or Modern,... I choose Character.
So do I but it doesn't have to be a dilapidated wreck!
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Correct, but the trouble is not all investments are right or meet the most pressing requirements.
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So do I but it doesn't have to be a dilapidated wreck!
Maybe Im lucky as the Upper Tier has everything I need. The only thing Im annoyed about are the new lights that blind you even in daytime and Michael Dapaah but he was axed..
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Maybe Im lucky as the Upper Tier has everything I need. The only thing Im annoyed about are the new lights that blind you even in daytime and Michael Dapaah but he was axed..
You are then, try taking a piss at half time (in the appointed place of course) in any other area of the ground without getting your feet wet or missing the start of the 2nd. half, or buying some reasonably priced refreshment at half time. A half time score card of all the sporting events would also be an improvement. We are lucky that we don't seem to have too many epileptics attending with those flashing lights.

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