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Old 17-04-2017, 05:54 AM
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Quite what Christian Wade has to do to get selected for England is beyond me. I reckon he might be on the Lions plane.
he might be, but what stops him being picked by England is his defence, or lack thereof.
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Old 18-04-2017, 07:54 AM
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BBC reporting Launchbury and Joseph won't be selected. Gatland favours bigger centres as we suspected and they say he'll pick Wyn Jones and Ryan as locks. I wouldn't take Joseph as a centre either but I think he could have been a winger.
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Old 18-04-2017, 08:20 AM
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George Ford apparently not picked either. I cannot understand the Launchbury omission at all, even if they only take five with one or two of the back rows providing cover
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Old 18-04-2017, 11:28 AM
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Squad all depends on how Gatland is planning to play out in NZ. I guess he will try and play a more Welsh based game of containment/defence, with then big guys to make holes in attack and a good counter attacking backline.

His choices on the back row interest me most as those will really give us a clue on how he plans to play. Warburton at captain for instance, a player who is excellent in defence and at turnover, but rather lacking in ball carrying.
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he might be, but what stops him being picked by England is his defence, or lack thereof.
This is not a dig at you as you are largely echoing what the papers continue to say but his defence is streets ahead of where it was, listen to what Dai Young says about him. If anything, I would say that Jones doesn't pick him due to his preferred structure/style of play but it is one hell of a try machine to ignore...
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Old 18-04-2017, 12:00 PM
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Streets ahead of where it was doesn't make it good. Did you see the Sale game a month or two back?
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Streets ahead of where it was doesn't make it good. Did you see the Sale game a month or two back?
None of the defence turned up that day. Did you see the try saving tackle he made early in the Bath away game in March? One can point out sloppy defending for any winger, one can't point out his try scoring ability to any other English winger save Ashton and perhaps Solomona (btw, I see every Wasps game home and away, domestic or Europe unless on holiday).
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None of the defence turned up that day. Did you see the try saving tackle he made early in the Bath away game in March? One can point out sloppy defending for any winger, one can't point out his try scoring ability to any other English winger save Ashton and perhaps Solomona (btw, I see every Wasps game home and away, domestic or Europe unless on holiday).
Try saving tackles v Saints and Bristol last two weeks, too. His defence is better than May, who Jones sees as a project.

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Try saving tackles v Saints and Bristol last two weeks, too. His defence is better than May, who Jones sees as a project.

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Joseph and Launchbury very unlucky if the reports are true. I guess we should have guessed Warrenball would be the style regardless of the form teams performances in the 6N.
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which means he'll be playing seven. He's not even the best seven in Wales.
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Jamie Roberts is rumoured- he's been poor for a couple of years now.. Gatland and his faves..
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Jamie Roberts is rumoured- he's been poor for a couple of years now.. Gatland and his faves..
If Roberts makes the squad it really is a joke selection, Well past it.

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Telegraph saying Roberts is not in after all
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41 players! Why did everyone think it would be 37? Launchberry the unluckiest guy. George over Hartley makes sense given his impact from the bench. Heaslip is unlucky but Moriarty looked pretty decent in the 6N. Watson is lucky because he was useless against Ireland. I assume his club form has improved since? Shame no late bolters.
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Surprises for me are Moriarty - though he did have a good 6N so not too worried and the full back options of Payne and Halfpenny - i really dont know what Payne offers and Halfpenny is only good these days for his goal kicking and since Sexton and Farrell should be on the pitch he shouldnt be needed. I didnt expect Brown to get selected (Kearney and Liam Williams instead) but to be below Payen and ha'penny is a bit of a kick.


Still, 5 or 6 of these will get injured and replacements will need be called up. Fingers crossed for some of the unlucky this time around.
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