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Old 21-04-2017, 12:03 PM
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Good luck with that.You`ve got more chance of the Pope handing you a winning lottery ticket than people in this country collectively doing ANYTHING for the greater good of the masses.
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Old 21-04-2017, 12:07 PM
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Good luck with that.You`ve got more chance of the Pope handing you a winning lottery ticket than people in this country collectively doing ANYTHING for the greater good of the masses.
Whilst I agree with you, it sounds like you'd like that not to be the case. If you change your mind someone else might change theirs too.
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Just vote Labour , How can anyone vote for the Judas Liberals who enabled the Tories to take power ?
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This, and stop pissing about.
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I see Gina Millers profound love of democracy at work again... and I think shes tilting at windmills. This nt a vote about Europe . Its a vote about the UK and who governs her
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If this is about the EU, can someone explain to me why voting Labour would make any difference to voting Tory.

The things Corbyn wants out of any deal with the EU cause the same problems with single market access as the things the anti-EU Tory / UKIP types want. They'll have the exact same problems that the Tories would have doing a deal, even if they pretend they won't.

If you want a soft Brexit then you shouldn't be going near either of them.
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I see Gina Millers profound love of democracy at work again... and I think shes tilting at windmills. This nt a vote about Europe . Its a vote about the UK and who governs her
how dare these thickos think differently to me
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If this is about the EU, can someone explain to me why voting Labour would make any difference to voting Tory.

The things Corbyn wants out of any deal with the EU cause the same problems with single market access as the things the anti-EU Tory / UKIP types want. They'll have the exact same problems that the Tories would have doing a deal, even if they pretend they won't.

If you want a soft Brexit then you shouldn't be going near either of them.
Economist article suggests that we'll get a softer Brexit if May has a bigger majority - as it will reduce the impact of the Brexit hardliners??

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Maybe. It's one way it could go, but no one really knows what May is thinking of doing other than probably her husband.
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To be frank, nobody knows what May wants or can or cannot deliver. She flip flops, uses soundbites, and little else. We are going to get something, but I suspect that what we get will be less than satisfactory for our future growth and job prospects. But hey, the old crone has still got another five years.
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I see Gina Millers profound love of democracy at work again... and I think shes tilting at windmills. This nt a vote about Europe . Its a vote about the UK and who governs her
Party politics and Brexit have become so conflated and Brexit is such a contentious issue, which divides both Tory and Labour parties, that we can't have an GE without it playing a huge part in how people are persuaded to vote.
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Maybe. It's one way it could go, but no one really knows what May is thinking of doing other than probably her husband.
I do wonder how much of her thinking is driven by his advice .
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