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Everyone's forgetting Souare while discussing left backs. Will he ever play again ?
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The game is all about opinions, from what I've seen of both so far I rate Schlupp as a far more committed player defensively, which is surprisingly given he has always generally been a winger. PVA, although clearly talented, looks a lot less interested and from what I've seen is a very poor defender, which is probably why Allardyce continually has him on the bench instead of Schlupp.

Rubbish!! van Aanholt has only just come back from injury. That's why Schlupp was picked ahead of him. Now PvA is fit he starts ahead of Schlupp.


Each season there is normally a movement of about 10 senior players in and out (including loans) and this season has been no different so I see no reason why it wont be again.

Our squad is really quite old now. All our midfielders bar Luka are 30 and over and many more of the squad are either there or close (can you believe Lee & Sako will both be 29 this summer and Tomkins is already 28?).

Since when has Tomkins been a midfielder?


Of our out of contract players I'm fairly sure Fryers, Flamini, Ledley, Campbell & Hennessey will go. Speroni & Delaney may be offered contracts as last resort squad players but I wouldn't be surprised to see at least one of them go.

We clearly need to sell Mutch & Mandanda and Lee & Sako probably need to go too. Of those 11 players which 5-6 do you think we will keep then? What value does keeping these ageing players that rarely play in the squad going to achieve?
I think we'll keep Hennessey but as a number 2 next season (or at least i hope so) I'm sure others will be sold/released but my point is we cannot afford to replace them all so it will be done over the next year or two. I expect some players will be given a 2 year contract extension so we can sell them next summer instead of letting them go on a free? Just my opinion.
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Everyone's forgetting Souare while discussing left backs. Will he ever play again ?

Maybe (i hope so) but don't think it will be next season. We may see him back at training later in the year & eased back into things? Just guessing really after his injury.
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I think we'll keep Hennessey but as a number 2 next season (or at least i hope so) I'm sure others will be sold/released but my point is we cannot afford to replace them all so it will be done over the next year or two. I expect some players will be given a 2 year contract extension so we can sell them next summer instead of letting them go on a free? Just my opinion.
Hennessey was offered a contract last August but has clearly not accepted it. Wouldn't be surprised if an ex-manager of ours tapped him up. Otherwise who would you keep out of those players?

Re PVA yes he has started the last 2 games, looking awful in both, but previously was sub for quite a while. Yesterday SA picked Schlupp as the left sided defender ahead of him as he obviously thinks he is a better defender.

Btw I didn't say Tomkins was a midfielder. Read my post instead of trying to nitpick.
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Re PVA yes he has started the last 2 games, looking awful in both, but previously was sub for quite a while. Yesterday SA picked Schlupp as the left sided defender ahead of him as he obviously thinks he is a better defender.

Absolute rubbish !!! The majority of the team have been poor the last few games. Not just van Aanholt.
No he wasn't. HE WAS INJURED & Allardyce eased him back. Why risk giving him a full game when just back from Injury.
Do you even watch the games? Doesn't seem like it.
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Absolute rubbish !!! The majority of the team have been poor the last few games. Not just van Aanholt.
No he wasn't. HE WAS INJURED & Allardyce eased him back. Why risk giving him a full game when just back from Injury.
Do you even watch the games? Doesn't seem like it.
Seriously go **** yourself if you can't have a reasonable discussion. I do go games and will be at the Hull game.
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Seriously go **** yourself if you can't have a reasonable discussion. I do go games and will be at the Hull game.
No need to be rude is there? I thought we were having a reasonable discussion?
Just because your wrong about PvA you get abusive.
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Tbh I haven't been impressed with PvA at all, even in his first game he almost gifted Bournemouth a goal. I am not sure why he has been so poor, but for 13m we look like total mugs. On the other hand Shlupp looks a better deal as he is still young and although not a defender he has defended well in most games. I would like to see Shlupp further up the field as he is fast and strong and would hopefully be effective running at defenders.
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Tbh I haven't been impressed with PvA at all, even in his first game he almost gifted Bournemouth a goal. I am not sure why he has been so poor, but for 13m we look like total mugs. On the other hand Shlupp looks a better deal as he is still young and although not a defender he has defended well in most games. I would like to see Shlupp further up the field as he is fast and strong and would hopefully be effective running at defenders.
Without him we'd be 2 points worse off
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No need to be rude is there? I thought we were having a reasonable discussion?
Just because your wrong about PvA you get abusive.
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Sako - shame I think there is a player in there just too injury prone
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Hennessey - improved but still nowhere near the required standard
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Campbell - not the required level
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Lee - "tidy" player but we does he actually do
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Hennessey - improved but still nowhere near the required standard
Fryers - 4th choice
Campbell - not the required level
Flamini - panic signing
Remy - crock
Ledley - has left on a free every stage of his contract...cheerio
Williams - this pains me but frankly I'd rather he move and play that rot in our reserves
Good list to me. Agreed. What about Martin Kelly? 50/50 for me. Also Kwesi Appiah still there????
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