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Old 01-09-2017, 03:43 PM
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Again, that's not how it works.

You have to name someone if they're injured unless you have more than 25 then you can pick who you leave out. The only way we can sign a free agent is if it's before the 25 is named. If it's not Wickham has to be named.
That's not how I understand it works; Watford left out a newly-acquired player who was injured last year.
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Old 01-09-2017, 03:45 PM
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Plenty of time. What's the rush?

This site is full of pant wetters.

One striker is plenty for the next few seasons. That's why we have invested elsewhere in a rwb, goalkeeper and cover for Wilf.

Remember where we were 8 years ago and be thankful we still have a team to support.
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Plenty of time. What's the rush?

This site is full of pant wetters.

One striker is plenty for the next few seasons. That's why we have invested elsewhere in a rwb, goalkeeper and cover for Wilf.

Remember where we were 8 years ago and be thankful we still have a team to support.
and you should add, if we get relegated so be it
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That source is five years old, and doesn't reflect the current FL rules (for example, Section L isn't even about squads anymore; it's about fixture scheduling).

In addition, the three player examples you mentioned don't apply to us, because all three of those clubs named full 25 man squads, and the injured players represented the 26th player on their rosters.

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I'm looking at the EPL handbook now, and I'll report back if I see anything significant.

If you have an example of a player being left out due to injury, and the club submitting a 24 man squad as a result, by all means provide it. But your post really tells us nothing that we need to know about our situation.
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Old 01-09-2017, 03:52 PM
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That's not how I understand it works; Watford left out a newly-acquired player who was injured last year.
EDIT: Nope, still doesn't apply to us! Turns out, Watford only had 5 home grown players (see premierleague.com link below), and that is why they left 3 spaces in their squad.

The player was Brice Dja Djedje. He was signed in the summer of 2016, and had a foot injury that left him out until January.
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EDIT EDIT: And someone just confirmed that in the post below me

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Old 01-09-2017, 04:25 PM
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That Watford example reads like they had to leave a foreigner out because they can only have so many and so they couldn't have named him even if they wanted to (or they could've named him and left someone else out, but that wouldn't really make sense).
I was commenting more on the fact that he was injured and therefore left out; yes I see they had too many non-home-grown players as well, but the principle of not including an injured player was also an issue.
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Nah if they're injured they still have to be named.

You can only sign someone after the 25 if you have less then 25 players contracted (which we don't). We can sign as many as we want before the 25 is named.
Which means we can sign up players on a free. They are then contracted. We then decide on who we put in the 25
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I was commenting more on the fact that he was injured and therefore left out; yes I see they had too many non-home-grown players as well, but the principle of not including an injured player was also an issue.
No, it wasn't. If he weren't injured, they would have still been forced to leave him (or another foreign player) out.

More likely scenario in Watford's case: He signed on 6 July, was injured on 20 July, and they knew they could only register 22 players, so they bought a 23rd player before the window closed knowing that it would be easy to choose which player to leave out (the injured one). If he had not been injured, they wouldn't have made that last signing, or else risk pissing off one player.

What is going to happen is one of two things:
1) We register Wickham and we all feel stupid for even discussing it, and angry that his replacement wasn't sorted out, or
2) The club tries to leave him out of the squad, and the FA/FIFA has some new case law to work on, as there is no precedent for this situation.

Looking at past windows, the squad lists are generally made public two days after the end of the window, so we will find out what happens tomorrow.

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That source is five years old, and doesn't reflect the current FL rules (for example, Section L isn't even about squads anymore; it's about fixture scheduling).

In addition, the three player examples you mentioned don't apply to us, because all three of those clubs named full 25 man squads, and the injured players represented the 26th player on their rosters.

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I'm looking at the EPL handbook now, and I'll report back if I see anything significant.

If you have an example of a player being left out due to injury, and the club submitting a 24 man squad as a result, by all means provide it. But your post really tells us nothing that we need to know about our situation.
Well we will see once the squads come out. I don't see how a player is eligible if they are injured which is clearly stated in the rules. Previous versions of the rule as you state, point towards players not having to be named if they have a long term injury. I don't see why that would be any different to a club who can name 24 players or 47.
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If there is one space remaining in the 25 then Chamakh please.
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Good call. What makes you think that he's either fit or a free agent?
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Good call. What makes you think that he's either fit or a free agent?
Because he is on the list?
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Dani Osvaldo could be good. Lambert is on free.
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