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Old 24-11-2017, 11:18 AM
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They're all in blimmin' Madrid, is why, the english speaking bastards.
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Old 24-11-2017, 04:31 PM
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The top man in the fiscalía has died in Buenos Aires. It'll be interesting to see who takes over from him.
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Apparently pretty conservative, but on the Catalan issue, he is one of the guys who voted to make it possible to reduce the charges against the members of the Govern from rebellion to conspiracy, and taking all the cases away from the Audiencia Nacional and handing them to the Supreme Court - where they should be better protected from political influence.

Not going to tear up any trees but probably more liberal than Maza, as far as I can make out.
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i think this is the key. If you have paid taxes somewhere surely you deserve a say?
I pay council and basura tax in the Valencian Community. Can I have a vote? Actually, I don't understand Spanish politics or the issues so I wouldn't vote anyway. I suspect where I am there are a huge number of expats or more likely second home owners from the rest of Spain and we all pay full council tax but don't use much of the services. I've no problem with that as the surplus in the budget pays for a lot of security, keeps the streets clean and pays for the spring and late autumn job creation programmes.

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Old 26-11-2017, 07:55 AM
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The PP man in Catalunya (Albiol) has said they want to close the catalan telly and reopen it with "normal people"
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Old 26-11-2017, 10:53 PM
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He’s such a div. The PP comes up with some real freaks for Catalunya. Dunno if you remember Vidal-Quadral, who later founded Vox?
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Old 27-11-2017, 01:04 PM
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Interesting noises from Puigdemont - the EU has let him down, and he's now proposing a referendum to possibly take Catalunya out of the EU. He's on a strange journey for a neo-liberal, for sure, but his arguments against the EU are pretty coherent.

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Old 27-11-2017, 01:09 PM
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Meanwhile, an opinion poll points to declining support for a secessionist strategy (which has already been assumed and taken on board by ERC and PDeCAT). Still at 25%, mind.
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The top man in the fiscalía has died in Buenos Aires. It'll be interesting to see who takes over from him.
And now Catalunya's top fiscal has also snuffed it - they're dropping like flies, or PP politicians with inside knowledge of corruption scandals.
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First time in ages they've been asked to actually do anything. Not used to it
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They're all in blimmin' Madrid, is why, the english speaking bastards.
You could try independence to get control of borders back?
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Old 28-11-2017, 09:25 AM
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Central government looking to claw back vat payments on subsidies given to lots of cultural entities. TV3 too.
Effectively hobbling them. 155 in full effect.
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From the outside it looks like the independence campaign has fizzled out , If the Madrid based central Government now punish Catalonia financially in a Similar way the EU are trying to punish the UK for Brexit the whole thing will balloon up again .
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Old 28-11-2017, 10:20 AM
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Central government looking to claw back vat payments on subsidies given to lots of cultural entities. TV3 too.
Effectively hobbling them. 155 in full effect.
Doesn’t VAT all go to central gov’t anyway?
Catalunya is a bit of a tough gig for culture. The state radio stations play songs in any language except Spanish - so even if you present a record that’s mostly in English but has a Spanish rap section, you’ve got no chance - and subsidise touring and production for Catalan language bands, but almost entirely exclude Spanish language acts.
It causes bad feeling. After all they are happy to collect tax from Spanish speakers.
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Old 28-11-2017, 11:25 AM
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Yes. Vat does go to the state coffers. But they've changed the rules retrospectively and now it has to be paid.
As regards to Spanish culture not being subsidised, firstly imho it doesn't need it any more than English needs subsidising in Wales.
But they have flamenco type concerts at the Palau de Música which has to be the most subsidised square metres in the country.
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So the issue is that grants to cultural quangos were VAT exempt, and now have VAT to be paid retrospectively? How far back?
I get the point about subsidising the language, but when you’re talking about pop groups, they can be making challenging Catalan art, in Spanish, can’t they? I mean Spanish is a Catalan language - it’s spoken by a lot of Catalans as their first tongue.
And not playing records in Spanish when you’re playing them in English, German, Urdu and Swahili is pretty daft, is all. And I do see how it arises but - it paints a picture of a place divided along ethnic lines.
Not that I’m going to go out and demonstrate about it,
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You could try independence to get control of borders back?
Won’t fly - there are few enough adults in Madrid with two parents born here, let alone four grandparents, and as for language all we have is a kind of gypsy slang, and “that” accent.
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There is demo on the 7th of December in Brussels. There are two planes chartered from Lleida airport.
Judging by the sour faces the GC had on when I was out at the airport working last week because I was talking Catalan they'll all be cavity searched before they get on the plane.
Brussels is a sea of yellow.
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Was Catalan tv (if there is such a thing) told they would only be allowed to broadcast 2min of Brussels ?
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Extradition proceedings against Puigdemont formally closed by Belgian court today, after Spain annulled European arrest warrant last week.
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