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Mark Sampson - England Women's manager

Been following this for a while albeit only through the media.

There's just something about him that doesn't seem quite right to me.

'...set to leave his role....'

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Old 20-09-2017, 02:33 PM
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Been following this for a while albeit only through the media.

There's just something about him that doesn't seem quite right to me.

'...set to leave his role....'

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sad, two FA hearings and an independent inquiry,huge support from the England team last night but his reputation seems to be in tatters, I wonder why Aluko is pushing more to destroy the poor guys reputation, I saw her performance on tv a few weeks back, quite pathetic in all honesty she clearly seems deluded and should seek help.

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Old 20-09-2017, 02:39 PM
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He has done a fantastic job and the players like him, except one that was dropped
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Old 20-09-2017, 02:41 PM
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sad, two FA hearings and independent inquiry,huge support from the England team last night but his reputation seems to be in tatters, I wonder why Aluko is pushing more to destroy the poor guys reputation, I saw her performance on tv a few weeks back, quite pathetic in all honesty she clearly seems deluded and should seek help.
Something definitely doesn't seem right about her.

Hes been cleared by several reviews as you say including an independent one. Maintains huge support from the squad including other black players...

She came out with all this after being dropped too...

I smell something foul for sure.
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She was dropped the next game after she made her initial complaint. Sampson claims he was unaware of her complaint when he dropped her, and it was for purely footballing reasons.

There has been two investigations but the integrity of both of them has been questioned.

I have no idea where the truth lies in this, and my observations are of no relevance to getting to it, but when I have seen Sampson interviewed from a personal point of view I have not been convinced by what appear to be stock answers citing the two investigations, and him not wanting to engage beyond that.

Two investigations and the story has not gone away.
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She was dropped the next game after she made her initial complaint. Sampson claims he was unaware of her complaint when he dropped her, and it was for purely footballing reasons.

There has been two investigations but the integrity of both of them has been questioned.

I have no idea where the truth lies in this, and my observations are of no relevance to getting to it, but when I have seen Sampson interviewed from a personal point of view I have not been convinced by what appear to be stock answers citing the two investigations, and him not wanting to engage beyond that.

Two investigations and the story has not gone away.
It looks as though Sampson had some banter that most people just thought was funny and in no way believed that to be his actual viewpoint. Then he came up against Aluko, a qualified lawyer, who possibly had a different perspective on what's acceptable. She makes a complaint, he drops her and then she's sees herself fighting what she feels is a double dose of unfairness.

But that's just me reading into it.
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A player no longer considered the best in her position is dropped to give others a chance. Instead of working harder to regain their place, and in fear of falling out of the limelight, the race card is played to continue the publicity charade.

IIRC Eluko was awarded an 80k settlement but still free to talk about it and a new, 1-year contract worth another 20k, even though she won't play under MS' management? Nice work if you can get it.
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A player no longer considered the best in her position is dropped to give others a chance. Instead of working harder to regain their place, and in fear of falling out of the limelight, the race card is played to continue the publicity charade.

IIRC Eluko was awarded an 80k settlement but still free to talk about it and a new, 1-year contract worth another 20k, even though she won't play under MS' management? Nice work if you can get it.
As I have already said she was dropped straight after she made her complaint, not before.

This also is not just an issue of race.

Like I also said I have no idea where the truth lies, but amazing to see some of you apparently do.
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Apparently there are new allegations against him
I wonder from any other players or is it Aluko with her race card driven agenda? she can make all the allegations she wants is there any proof though?
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Both BBC and Sky reporting he is about to leave his role as England manager.
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I think we have another David Jones scenario
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As I have already said she was dropped straight after she made her complaint, not before.

This also is not just an issue of race.

Like I also said I have no idea where the truth lies, but amazing to see some of you apparently do.
The complaint was made concerning a comment to another player in a meeting at which Eluko was not present. Nothing was made of the situation by the player concerned (although that doesn't stop the right to protest on behalf of others).

You are incorrect in your assumption that I know the truth, I'm merely expressing my opinion on the subject.
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He comes across as a bit slimey
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The complaint was made concerning a comment to another player in a meeting at which Eluko was not present. Nothing was made of the situation by the player concerned (although that doesn't stop the right to protest on behalf of others).

You are incorrect in your assumption that I know the truth, I'm merely expressing my opinion on the subject.
So why did you decide to have a pop at her if you had not made a decision on where the truth lies?
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He comes across as a bit slimey
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So why did you decide to have a pop at her if you had not made a decision on where the truth lies?
its a sign of the times, so typical
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He comes across as a bit slimey
surely one mans reputation cant be assassinated purely because he might appear"slimey"
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All the players ran to hug him after the first goal, it seems the squad believe him. Some of the players that have defended him have been Aluko's teammates at club level.

I wonder if it was changing room banter that is fine when you all get along, but when you don't like someone, banter can be deemed or even used to score points.
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