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The beginnings of the European Super League. In time the top clubs will break away to form their own pan-European league so they an have all the money to themselves.
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The beginnings of the European Super League. In time the top clubs will break away to form their own pan-European league so they an have all the money to themselves.
Absolutely. It's actually already well underway given the massive expansion of the Champions League and the talk of wild card entrants like Milan and Man Utd.

Next steps will be the request by the "Big 6" to reduce the size of the Premier League (if it reduces down to 18 first and then 16, they can entice clubs to vote in favour as they're likely to get a bigger slice of the TV pot).

The Champions League will continue to expand and look to territories with big TV audiences, maybe Chinese and IPL clubs joining it).
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The beginnings of the European Super League. In time the top clubs will break away to form their own pan-European league so they an have all the money to themselves.
The fans won't want it.Liverpool fans would rather watch their team against Everton than some club from Belgium.
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as is becoming apparent the TV money is becoming irrelevant in the scheme of things. It all goes to the players anyway
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The fans won't want it.Liverpool fans would rather watch their team against Everton than some club from Belgium.
What the fans want is largely irrelevant, sadly; we're only there to provide a bit of noise and colour in the background of 'their' product.
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The beginnings of the European Super League. In time the top clubs will break away to form their own pan-European league so they an have all the money to themselves.
In a league containing Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus, Bayern Munich, PSG etc., someone has to be last and take a pasting every week. They'd soon come crawling back when they're only winning five games a season in half-empty stadiums.
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Fast forward 5 years on talksport, fans phoning in complaining about kick off times.
Caller" The tv companies dont care about us, how are we going to get back from Glasgow on Christmas eve after a 8pm kick off?"

Also we they have promotion and relegation into and from the greed league?
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Fast forward 5 years on talksport, fans phoning in complaining about kick off times.
Caller" The tv companies dont care about us, how are we going to get back from Glasgow on Christmas eve after a 8pm kick off?"

Also we they have promotion and relegation into and from the greed league?
They won't want promotion or relegation which means most clubs will have nothing to play for each season. It would become boring pretty quickly and the TV companies would not pay huge monies to have games with half empty stadiums.
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They won't want promotion or relegation which means most clubs will have nothing to play for each season. It would become boring pretty quickly and the TV companies would not pay huge monies to have games with half empty stadiums.
Could see them taking the US approach to Sports if that's the case.

Expect various group to knock out stages to the season just to keep hopes alive for longer.
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What happens when the top 6 in the breakaway superleague want to keep more of the superleague money than the rest? Do they start a superduperleague? And on and on until it's just Neymar doing balancing a ball on his head in the centre circle of the Parc des Princes?
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What happens when the top 6 in the breakaway superleague want to keep more of the superleague money than the rest? Do they start a superduperleague? And on and on until it's just Neymar doing balancing a ball on his head in the centre circle of the Parc des Princes?
It'll end up as just Man U playing with themselves - w*nkers
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What the fans want is largely irrelevant, sadly; we're only there to provide a bit of noise and colour in the background of 'their' product.
Well that depends on which fans you're talking about...

All of these changes are only really possible if there's demand for it, and there is. 'Fans' from across the world, not ones local to the clubs.

So would Scousers prefer to see a Merseyside Derby on a Tuesday night? Sure. But what about the 'Thailand Reds'? The TV audience is far bigger than what you can fit into Anfield, so they will eventually take priority.

It's shit, but I accepted that it's going to happen long ago.
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As long as things are in the current league format, the top clubs will always get a larger piece of the cake, because they'll always have the threat of breaking away and put the PL over a barrel because of it.
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interesting dynamic given the UK market is saturated and starting to fall off a cliff ?
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They won't want promotion or relegation which means most clubs will have nothing to play for each season. It would become boring pretty quickly and the TV companies would not pay huge monies to have games with half empty stadiums.
I agree with this. Almost wrote something earlier then decided not to.

After the initial hype, attendances will drop, then there is just money, and then when TV companies realise it's not popular, that will disappear as well. And then nothing.

A club like, say, FC Porto or Benfica, would go from 1-2 in their own league to 10-11 in a Super League. That's no fun for their fans, once they start to lose interest, so do others, and the idea collapses. It's already happened with the Champions League as they weight it further in the favour of the very few.
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The fans won't want it.Liverpool fans would rather watch their team against Everton than some club from Belgium.
Do the fans really matter or have a say? The TV rights sadly drive this don’t they?
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Wouldn't be surprised if the biggest clubs get sooo rich, that they end up playing their reserves in the Prem (like they already do in the FA Cup and League Cup) and save their best players for the CL
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