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View Poll Results: MOM
Speroni 1 0.18%
PVA 4 0.73%
Tomkins 7 1.28%
Dann 0 0%
Ward 1 0.18%
Schlupp 1 0.18%
Milivojevic 12 2.19%
Cabaye 274 49.91%
RLC 6 1.09%
Townsend 26 4.74%
Zaha 202 36.79%
TFM 13 2.37%
Sako 2 0.36%
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Old 28-10-2017, 05:35 PM
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Zaha will get the headlines but he wasn’t our best player. Cabaye, Townsend, TFM & Tomkins were good today. At half time I was not happy but in the end we deserved the win. Can’t conplain about a draw when your 2-0 down at half time though.

Milivojevic has to start being better in possession. He did that first game of season. Ward is a weak link. So is Schlupp.
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Speroni 5 No saves. 2 shots 2 goals. neither in the corner. we need a keeper badly

PVA n/a I like him, and even I admit he shouldn't have been starting
Tomkins 6 Was ok
Dann 6 He was ok
Ward 4 His fault for first goal imho (where was he?) and offers nothing going forward. Rightly subbed

Schlupp 6 Felt he was better as a left back. Covering pace. Like it.
Milivojevic 7 Mistake for the second so minus a point, but other than that he bossed it. Excellent penalty. Again.
Cabaye 10 MOM He was ******* everywhere. Hit the post, so many tackles and interceptions. Lasted 90 mins. His best performance for us. Should be captain
Loftus Cheek 6 Was very poor for the first 75 mins but then came alive. Has power and pace but lacks energy. Doesn't close down properly

Zaha 9 Another goal to prove the doubters wrong. Should have had a penalty. Made the right decisions more often than not. With him we always have a chance
Townsend 7 Bright. A great runner, with quality on the ball and workrate off it. Won the penalty. Great work again Andros.

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Tim Fosu-Mensah 8 Beast of a player. So much pace, carried it forward. More about him later
Sako 7 I know he missed a glorious opportunity but I felt he worked so bloody hard, and was a threat despite playing out of position. he looks like a completely different player to me. Well done Bakary

Hodgson: Big credit to him, he seems to understand who his best players are. I didn't agree with the 4-3-3 but that 2nd sub was spot on.

Huge signs of encouragement there. Real fighting spirit, especially from Cabaye. There is NO WAY we are going down, especially if the manager gets it right. West Ham sat back as expected and we huffed and puffed and conceded the first after switching off. The 2nd was an error from Luka. But the whole reason we were in trouble was that we don't have enough attacking players, especially the full backs, at home. In fact, I blame Joel Ward for our abysmal home form. He simply has no pace, can't cross and can't go forward. That's not good enough for a modern Premier League full back. We were a different proposition when he went off. Tim Fosu-Mensah, superb game from him. He can run with it, he has the pace and he can tackle. Sign him up. Crucial cog in the machine for home games for me. Likewise Schlupp as a left back. Has the recovery pace, and can run with it. He is what is needed for home games especially. Very encouraging signs. We all know the XI that should be playing once Benteke is back. Let's hope we see it on a regular basis. We need to play with 2 pacy attacking full backs in the home games, plus RLC, Zaha, Townsend and Benteke to open them up. Pleased with our aerial presence today. Back to normal for us in that regard.
We saw the game in exactly the same way - we wrote almost exactly the same thing at the same time. I'm relatively optimistic about staying up IF we continue to show the same fighting spirit as of late. Our energy levels and commitment were hugely improved in the second half - they must have had a rollicking!! At some point fortune will smile in us too - so many golden chances somehow conspiring to stay out due to poor finishing, good saves and General rub of the green.
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Yohan was top drawer today and has been all season.
Julian seems to have the confidence of the defence and this helps with distribution, no panics. Is it because he looks like a keeper in the yellow whereas Wayne in grey looks just that grey and not visible to anyone.
Wilf has acquired an edge and determination that means the opposition can't let upon him.
TFM has so much pace, and defensively he's very sound a real find, shame it's only a loan.
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Luka has a bit of a habit of losing the ball softly for all his great play. Because he plays so deep it is usually costly.
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Cabaye MOM by a country mile

Townsend and Luka a close second

Wilf seem to drift in and out but came alive at the end and took his goal well.

TFM redeemed himself and some.

RLC had some good moments but I didn't find him that great.

Was I the only one spotting PVA throwing a tracksuit wha he was subbed.

The performance in the second half was as good as it was lacklustre in the first half. How come Joe Hart decides to put in a performance for the first time in about two years today? Has his dandruff flared up so he needs the ad again?

I want to see the Wilf penalty shout as it was the other end from the HU, but.......

We respect the point, but I agree with Roy. The amount of chances we created we could have won it by two goals. However, this isn't the first time. We have to convert this stuff. Get this right and we will be out of the relegation zone by Christmas.

I also think Roy is exactly the person we need at the moment. He says it how it is and is also beginning to turn this into action.

I would have been pissed off to have left Selhurst today with nothing. If West Ham get narky then **** them. I think 6 minutes of added time was generous to them given how much time they wasted. A real amount of added time and we would have won it.

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Much better everybody working hard and a bit of fight, 18 fouls. How much more urgent was the midfield.

BBC reckons 57% possession.

They had 2 shots on target and 2 goals, we created 9 on target for our 2. Oh for a striker.
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Game of two halves.

We were so lacklustre in first half... gifted them two goals (they did nothing apart from that)

Second had different animal.

Huge difference was moving wilf and Townsend wide with TFM right back!

Anyway ratings

Speroni 5 - wasn’t great for either goals, nothing to do apart from that

Ward 4 - poor, cost us first goal
Dann 6 - him and Tomkins poor for second goal, solid in 2nd half
Tomkins 6 - as above
Pva - not fair to judge on short outing

RLC 6 - better when he came in middle
Cabaye 8 - was everywhere
Luka 7 - again quality. Marked down for mistake that led to second
Schlupp 7 - did well today.

Wilf 8 - quiet in spells, actually think he’s wasted up top, love the man so much
Townsend 7 - was everywhere


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Sako 5 - pony
If Wilf was played on the right wing, as everyone wants, he would never have scored the equaliser or had 4 shots on target. He was outstanding. I don't want him to have to defend. That's how good he is. He is not a winger who crosses. He is a goalscorer. He is our Thierry Henry. Great to see him cutting in and shooting. Still has the option to go down the line, but if he scores goals he will finally get the pladits he deserves. Not beating players so much, but more end product where it matters.

Also, people criticise Parish but signing Zaha to a long term deal was the best bit of business any club did over the season.

Also, agree with the majority of your ratings - have just given slightly higher marks to Zaha and Cabaye, but understand most won't because we didn't win.


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No keeper in the world would have saved that second goal of theirs.
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Dreadful performance in the first half but very good second half. We deserved a point at least. Whether it's enough is another matter. West Ham were awful and I think it's a bad result for us not to beat them but credit to the players for working to the end.

We are about as close to being a one man team as you can get. We have no cutting edge apart from Wilf. Thank the lord for Wilf. I can't stand the premier league but watching him every week is the main reason I want us to stay up. He's a joy to see.

As for the defence, it was another day to forget. We looked all over the place in the final 20 mins of the second half. Badly missed Sakho.

Well, at least we didn't lose. I can't stand those wankers so to grab a draw is something at least.

Speroni - 6 - thought he was good. No fault for either goal.

Ward - 5 - Lots of poor passes and rightly subbed as he offers nothing going forward.
PvA - another pathetic performance before he limped off. What a useless pussy.
Dann - 5 - thought he was quite poor. Looks better with the superior Sakho to guide him.
Tomkins - 5 - not as strong as he should have been for several challenges and generally looked like a player that hasn't started in the league for a while.

Luka - 6 - very weak for Ayew's goal. Looked unsettled a lot but got into it more in the second half. Great penalty.
Cabaye - 7- lost the midfield battle first half but again he was much better second half. Some lovely through balls and a great shot that hit the post.
Schlupp - 4 - he's become a nothing player. Pointless for most of the game and always takes the safe option by passing backwards or sideways. What happened to the guy who would go on surging runs down the left? I'd restore him ah LB asap as he's not good enough to play further forward.
RLC - 6 - when he could be bothered he was ok as he made some lovely runs but he switches off for large periods of the game. He neeede to deliver a lot more.

Townsend - 6 - always busy and works so hard so gets a lot of credit but his lack of creativity and end product is very frustrating.
Zaha - 8 - the only player capable of hurting West Ham. Not his best game but he's still a menace. What a fantastic goal to rescue a point. Much better on the wing than up front.

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TFM - 6 - poor at left back but I thought he was very good in the second half when he switched to right back. Much more of a threat going forward than ward.
Sako - 5 - very clumsy and couldn't time his runs but he did some good work on the right wing. I'd start him until Benteke returns.


Hodgson - 5 - marked down for his negative approach - he needs to be bolder. Things are still poor but he doesn't have many options. Pleased for him that we got something out of this at least.
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So unlucky not to equalise when he did. If that had gone in we may have got all 3 points. Other feeling if TFM was excellent once switched to RB. Think he should start there.
What is up with Sakho?

A very minor calf strain and wanted to play but I assume Roy didnít want to risk it and make matters worse and risk losing him for longer.
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Good to see Hodgson act a bit sooner and more decisively with his subs this week.

Need to see their first goal again, but at the time I couldn’t understand why Ward left his wing undefended and was attracted towards another WH player, who someone else had.

Great second half performance by TF-M, especially after a painful injury in the first half.

I also thought Townsend and Wilf were great...and Sako pitched in by winning some corners and giving their defence another nuisance to think about. Obviously not a Prem striker though.

Luka worked hard, but was also partly responsible for their second goal.

RL-C is annoying me at times, by sauntering around and drifting out the game for periods. But, then he suddenly comes alive for a patch and shows great skill and vision! A frustrating player who could be brilliant if he could be more consistent.

But MoM for me was Cabaye for trying throughout the match, geeing up the others, nearly scoring (how did the rebound off the post miss the back of Hart?!) and showing the grit that was missing in nearly all those who played on Tuesday.
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We really needed 3 points, but we show spirit and determination to come back from 2 down to draw.

Speroni 5 - should have done better with both goals. The second was from outside the box and straight at him!

Ward - 5 mixed bag, not terrible, not good.

PVa - na. Injured early

Dann 5 - average7

Tomkins 6 - better than Dann, 2 good headers on target.

Luka 7 - strong all game, slipped for the 2nd goal, but other players had 1/2 the field to stop Ayew. Good penalty.

Cabaye - 8 good game, hit the post and keep going.

Lotus-Cheek - 6 a few good runs, but really spends too much of the game anonymous

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Wilf - 8 will also struggle with Madely as ref, as he never gives him anything. Lots of on target shots today, last one went in!

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That was Dann

Dann would have been one on one with ayew for the first goal too which is why ward came across as he's supposed to do. He wasn't at fault, normally Luka would have been picking ayew up in front of the back four there but it was a quick break
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No keeper in the world would have saved that second goal of theirs.
Was it in the corner? Don't think so.
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PVA had the real rats when he came off sitting in the dug out. Silly really as itís hardly worth making an injury worse by playing on - see Wilf against Huddersfield.
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No keeper saves that second goal. Watch it again from behind ayew
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