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View Poll Results: MOM
Speroni 1 0.18%
PVA 4 0.73%
Tomkins 7 1.28%
Dann 0 0%
Ward 1 0.18%
Schlupp 1 0.18%
Milivojevic 12 2.19%
Cabaye 274 49.91%
RLC 6 1.09%
Townsend 26 4.74%
Zaha 202 36.79%
TFM 13 2.37%
Sako 2 0.36%
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Old 28-10-2017, 06:46 PM
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Jules 6

Fosu Mensah at Left back 3. Right back 8 - good power
Tomkins 8 - got stuck in
Dann - 6 distribution poor
Ward - 4 Cant cross for toffee

Cabaye - 10 unreal performance
Luka 5 - poor game, at fault for 2nd goal but good pen
RLC - 5.5 Really patchy - some great stuff but naff all defensively
Schlupp 4 - Awful passing. Did he touch the ball 1st half? Slightly better at LB
Wilf - 8 Our main threat but was off the boil for large parts but great goal. Zero protection
Townsend - 9 another fantastic performance would just love him to pop up with a goal

Bakary - 7. He is what he is. careless but also direct.

Shouldve won, almost lost. Need to improve. 11 corners and we had 2 CBs on the bench who shouldve come on for Schlupp last 10 for extra height

A point for a game that Bobby Maddley refs is a positve in my eyes
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Having scored so late makes it feel like a win.

In the first half I thought both sides were poor but we made two major errors. I sit just behind the Holmesdale goal and don't feel Jules could have done anything either goal. The defending was poor higher up the pitch. Did Wilf get fouled just before the first goal? It looked obvious to me but maybe from closer it didn't look that way.

In the second half we looked like a different team. It helped scoring early and putting West Ham under pressure. On another day we could have scored quite a few but Hart did better than I ever remember. We still had some chances that I don't know how they didn't go in.

According to my watch Wilf started going past the defenders with five second left before having the shot. That is leaving it very late but worth it now.
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Do we play RLC or Macca?

Difficult one. Wasn't convinced by RLC today until the last 15 mins.
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Lotus cheek poor for the second time in a week.
Townsend back to his usual poor end product and set piece delivery.
Dann faffed about too often.
Cabaye superb.
We remain a one man team in Wilf.
Wilf is undoubtedly our star but we are not a one man team. Townsend has been excellent, cabaye our best player this year. Benteke will score goals, hopefully we will see greater work ethic and fighting spirit from him too.
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We'll Joe Hart was the man of the match obviously and we need a new keeper because either of the current two are not good enough.
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Lotus cheek poor for the second time in a week.
Townsend back to his usual poor end product and set piece delivery.
Dann faffed about too often.
Cabaye superb.
We remain a one man team in Wilf.
Rubbish! Townsend was brilliant in the second half. Loftus Cheek was one on the better players in the 1st half and admittedly went missing for a large part of the second half but still all in all I wouldn't say his performance was poor.
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Though a Late Goal,from Wilf Zaha,the Point was the Minimum Deserved.
The amount of chances Created,Blocked,Hit the woodwork & saved,by Joe Hart,who was Man-of Match.
Though felt,Yohan Cabaye,was excellent.
Mamadou Sakho was a Huge Miss.

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First half was a shambles
Referee a complete cunit
Mark Noble how come no yellow for at least three studs up tackles.
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So Bilic is quoted saying that the draw "felt like a defeat". Were we watching the same game? Ok we sneaked the draw but.........
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20 mins walk to Malaga? I know I'm a bit pissed atm but........
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That was Dann

Dann would have been one on one with ayew for the first goal too which is why ward came across as he's supposed to do. He wasn't at fault, normally Luka would have been picking ayew up in front of the back four there but it was a quick break
Well after two posters blamed Ward for both goals I'm glad someone cleared it up.
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what wage is Hart on though? Must be mega-bucks for a 'good' goalkeeper
I suppose there has to be an adjustment now he has to buy his own shampoo.
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Cabaye MOM by a country mile

Townsend and Luka a close second

Wilf seem to drift in and out but came alive at the end and took his goal well.

TFM redeemed himself and some.

RLC had some good moments but I didn't find him that great.

Was I the only one spotting PVA throwing a tracksuit wha he was subbed.

The performance in the second half was as good as it was lacklustre in the first half. How come Joe Hart decides to put in a performance for the first time in about two years today? Has his dandruff flared up so he needs the ad again?

I want to see the Wilf penalty shout as it was the other end from the HU, but.......

We respect the point, but I agree with Roy. The amount of chances we created we could have won it by two goals. However, this isn't the first time. We have to convert this stuff. Get this right and we will be out of the relegation zone by Christmas.

I also think Roy is exactly the person we need at the moment. He says it how it is and is also beginning to turn this into action.

I would have been pissed off to have left Selhurst today with nothing. If West Ham get narky then **** them. I think 6 minutes of added time was generous to them given how much time they wasted. A real amount of added time and we would have won it.
I think in this case you can't use the "respect the point" motto. Seeing as we only clinched it in the 96th minute. Id say that's "thankful for the point"
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As terrible as the first half was, the second was a fantastic effort full of commitment and in the end a draw was the very least we deserved if not a win. To be 2-0 down at half-time to literally the only shots at all that West Ham had was particularly galling, as poor as we were going forwards. The interesting thing was that the players were clapped from the field, and that positive response from the crowd continued to the momentum of the team after the break. The MOM could have been Joe Hart who produced some amazing saves and blocks, even if he didn't know much about one of them.

The were several talking points that I would need to see again on TV before making a final judgement.

Speroni - 6 - nothing to do, and can't really judge from where I was whether he could have done better for either goal. My impression was that it was a great finish by Ayew.

Ward - 5 - limited going forward and slows us down in attack. Not sure about the first West Ham goal, but Cresswell was in acres of space, and someone else totally lost Hernandez coming in from the left

Van Aanholt - injured early

Fosu-Mensah - 7 - good game from him, takes us further upfield, but needs the confidence to keep driving forward rather than stopping and looking to pass inside.

Dann - 6 - very little to do

Tompkins - 6 -very little to do, but why can't he score from point blank range? this wasn't the first time

Luka - 7 - dominated the space in front of the back 4 except in one crucial case, making a terrible error that cost us a goal. Shame for him but showed character to bury the penalty

Cabaye - 9 - (MOM) what a tremendous footballer, we are lucky to have him. Played with aggression, drove us on with many positive passes and so unlucky not to score on 2 occasions, hitting the post and forcing a great save from Hart from a free kick

RLC - 6 - looks short of confidence, but looked more positive towards the end. Did the difficult stuff and then failed to pick the easier option in the box a couple of times. Worth persisting with him I think.

Townsend - 7.5 - full of energy again, beat players wide and put a few good balls in. Won the penalty.

Zaha - 8 - in the first half he was getting frustrated, but as usual raised his performance and scared the daylights out of their defence, getting his just deserts right at the death. Brought the house down, and right now, he is Palace.

Sako - 7 - didn't look totally in control of the ball at times, but put in a shift winning a few corners and keeping up the pressure.

Hodgson - 7 - not sure why we were so tepid in the first half, but made the correct change with Sako.

The performances in the last 3 league games are encouraging but we should really have come out with more points, so we need luck to change as well. This last minute goal has to be an uplifting feeling for the team, management and fans.
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Once again the lack of a striker shows what a disaster of a window we had.

If the team that finished had started we may have won. Finally we got rid of Ward and Tim at right back - what a difference, pace and accuracy with his passing.

Ward needs to go the way of Puncheon.

RLC got to play centrally and that meant he became the player we need with powerful runs from midfield into their defence.

Wilf could have scored more he had enough chances.

A point was what we deserved in the end but its still two dropped. We played some great football in the second half but no cutting edge let us down again - we had enough chances to get the 3-2 win.

Cant see us staying up - 10 games 4 points there will need to be another incredible transformation to make 38.

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Our players and management must learn that ability alone will not keep us up. However if we work our nuts off. Show a bit of guts . Have a bit of luck along the way we do have enough ability to climb out of trouble. The 2nd half performance makes the 1st even more frustrating. Sometimes we have to be prepared to tackle a runner properly hard. Not dirty but hard. Noble is not my most popular player but by christ we need an enforcer like him sometimes. Or preferably 6 . Football is a contact sport and the sooner some of our defenders realise this the better. Damo may be slow but at least if he gets their you reckon he will win the tackle. If this happens at 3 pm rather than 4 pm even better. The positional play of our centre backs also puts to much pressure on the man on the ball. Mamadou always creates an easy option . I am dissapointed that the others havent learnt from him
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Malaga Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietMalaga Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietMalaga Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietMalaga Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietMalaga Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietMalaga Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietMalaga Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietMalaga Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietMalaga Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietMalaga Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietMalaga Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
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20 mins walk to Malaga? I know I'm a bit pissed atm but........
Yeah i know it takes 30 actually without Stellios!!
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