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Old 04-11-2017, 07:01 PM
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That would be good.

But be aware that apparently my views make me dangerous to children.
I never said that, or agreed with it.
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I do not need to call people names as you do I got over that a while back , In my opinion, I think I have a legitimate point that the pictures in question are dangerous and those that display these pictures do harm to children.

Anyway, the word Pedo/Nonce has been used so many times by so many lately without recourse why would you be worried about it being used now (which it was not, its another assumed insult) very strange?

What about the subject any views?

Would you hang a picture up in your living room of prepubescent children with one completely naked with her legs open while another older child who is in her panties standing over her or mind if someone else did this in the name of art?

I know you put pictures up on here of very young babies do you think that is the same?

Or are you just here to have a go at me?

People said they wanted to discuss this I made the thread but it seems not.
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Yes most of her stuff is acceptable, but the picture in question, that Elton John had, and you, among others, deemed art, was not, by a long chalk.

Please explain to me why you thought its ok.
So are you saying this artist is a nonce?
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I do not need to call people names as you do I got over that a while back , In my opinion, I think I have a legitimate point that the pictures in question are dangerous and those that display these pictures do harm to children.

Anyway, the word Pedo/Nonce has been used so many times by so many lately without recourse why would you be worried about it being used now (which it was not, its another assumed insult) very strange?

What about the subject any views?

Would you hang a picture up in your living room of prepubescent children with one completely naked with her legs open while another older child who is in her panties standing over her or mind if someone else did this in the name of art?

I know you put pictures up of very young babies do you think that is the same?

Or are you just here to have a go at me?

People said they wanted to discuss this I made the thread but it seems not.
My view is that you were out of order, and instead of apologising you've just tried to spin it.

I think that's pretty shit.
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Old 04-11-2017, 07:06 PM
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So are you saying this artist is a nonce?
I'm not sure, but it is certainly a picture that paedophiles would find very apealing. Some of her other work is touch and go imho.
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Old 04-11-2017, 07:07 PM
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Yes most of her stuff is acceptable, but the picture in question, that Elton John had, and you, among others, deemed art, was not, by a long chalk.

Please explain to me why you thought its ok.
Put at its very simplest, I think it's a very dangerous thing when we only think of pictures of children as seen through the eyes of a paedophile. This article says it better than I could.

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I'm not sure, but it is certainly a picture that paedophiles would find very apealing. Some of her other work is touch and go imho.
What paedos would find interesting is neither here nor there. She isn't responsible for those sick *****. The only issue at hand is whether she was making something for them, either because she is one or she is happy to profit off them.
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I'm not sure, but it is certainly a picture that paedophiles would find very apealing. .
That may well be true.

But there is official record of them finding the Mothercare catalogue appealing as well. Child abuse is a dreadful, criminal thing : but we mustn't let its existence alter the very way that we think.
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My view is that you were out of order, and instead of apologising you've just tried to spin it.

I think that's pretty shit.
I would never apologise to anyone over someone thinking that these disgusting pictures are art and has no problem with them being displayed openly.

Why would I do that?
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Old 04-11-2017, 07:12 PM
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I never said that, or agreed with it.
Thank you. It was a really shit thing to say, and the more people disassociate themselves from it, the more chance (I live in hope...) of an apology.
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I would never apologise to anyone over someone thinking that these disgusting pictures are art and has no problem with them being displayed openly.

Why would I do that?
That wasnt the issue Les. If you haven't got the balls to apologise for what you said, I guess that's that.

But stop trying to spin it, just makes it worse.
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Old 04-11-2017, 07:13 PM
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I would never apologise to anyone over someone thinking that these disgusting pictures are art and has no problem with them being displayed openly.



Why would I do that?

Maybe you should apologise for insinuating he is a paedo... you can still disagree with him about what is art.
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That wasnt the issue Les. If you haven't got the balls to apologise for what you said, I guess that's that.

But stop trying to spin it, just makes it worse.
I do not need to spin this one Heb, I kind of think the spin is coming from you people with a word I have not used and anyways you are not interested in apologies in the slightest...Which you will not get.

So the subject would you see these pics as art?
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I do not need to spin this one Heb, I kind of think the spin is coming from you people with a word I have not used ?
This is true folks. He did not use the word. What he said was...

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I give you my opinion as a father of girls and I would protect them to death from people like you.
I think this is a little bit worse than calling me a paedophile, but there you go...
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Maybe you should apologise for insinuating he is a paedo... you can still disagree with him about what is art.
I feel that anyone that feels that explicit pictures of children are art hurt children everywhere and enable paedophiles to get there kicks for free.

Thankfully 99% of the time these arty types have their "children art" withdrawn from exhibitions and even banned from the internet
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This is true folks. He did not use the word. What he said was...



I think this is a little bit worse than calling me a paedophile, but there you go...
Maybe you should see the victims in child porn as the victims in your art rather than yourself.
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Maybe you should see the victims in child porn as the victims in your art rather than yourself.
Maybe you should start behaving like a moderator.

And bringing your own children into this? Proper tacky.
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I'm not sure, but it is certainly a picture that paedophiles would find very apealing. Some of her other work is touch and go imho.
Reminds me a bit of that Tracy Emin - couldn't have named her but was aware of the "My unmade bed" art and some "edgy" sketches.

Need to use self publicity and does it by shock. Reading the description it was meant to provoke these sensations, but mainly to publicise her work in general and increase its value I guess.

I would bet it wouldn't see the light of day today. Nor would she promote it, doesn't come across as daft.
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I do not need to spin this one Heb, I kind of think the spin is coming from you people with a word I have not used and anyways you are not interested in apologies in the slightest...Which you will not get.

So the subject would you see these pics as art?
Sure Les. You know what you said. As does everyone who saw the exchange

I never saw the pictures. Looking at naked kids isn't really my cup of tea, art or not.
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