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View Poll Results: MOM
Speroni 3 0.85%
Ward 7 1.98%
Sakho 151 42.66%
Dann 45 12.71%
TFM 2 0.56%
Schlupp 1 0.28%
Luka 8 2.26%
RLC 3 0.85%
Cabaye 84 23.73%
Zaha 22 6.21%
Townsend 25 7.06%
Sako 3 0.85%
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Should have won.

Perhaps one of the worst tactical decisions in recent memory. Taking off Ward, leaving us completely exposed down our right and giving the game and control to Spurs. Just do not know what Roy was thinking. That sub cost us any chance of at least a draw. Sako doesn't understand offside.

Sakho should have been braver to score in the first few minutes.

Cabaye played well, but cannot be motm when his poor clearance gave away the goal.

Never a better time to play Spurs and we should have capitalised.

Roy has got to improve on his tactical awareness as that today was a very, very poor decision that cost us.
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As well as we played against a weakened Spurs side , it is only 1 point from last 3 games .
Unless we somehow start scoring , things will not improve .
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Cabaye playing consistently and for 90 mins and commitment to the cause all of this since RH. Amazing really. I know he made a mistake today but it was that mistimed kick
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Speroni 7.. .......Little to do, no chance with the goal.
Fosu-Mensah 8..Tough day having to cover acres of space against Rose and Son.
Ward 8.............Had to cover our problem position again and did well.
Dann 9.............True leader at the back and dangerous again at set pieces
Sakho 7............Some good challenges, but at times looked to lack bravery and fitness
Luka 7.............Just lacking in sharpness
Cabaye 8...........Busy, but set pieces inconsistent.
Schlupp 6..........A few incisive passes, but unreliable defensively.
RLC 7................Did more in defense than some credit him with, but needs a central attacking midfield position to shine.
Townsend 7........Some good touches but need more from him in that free role.
Zaha 8...............Still our only real threat, but so much weight on his shoulders.

Sako 2................Troubled the linesman more than the defense

Hodgson 8...........Tactics sound, but we need some luck.
Friend 2...............Gave us nothing
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Played well, freezing cold....

If we had a striker we could have won this one.

Story of the season I’m afraid!
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Can't carry on like this. The chances we are not taking and the points we are giving up are mounting. No way should we have lost to Burnley and probably should have won. Should never have lost to Southampton or Newcastle. And in the last two games really should have beaten West Ham and could have beaten Spurs. The same thing keeps happening and can't all be down to bad luck.
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Should have won.

Perhaps one of the worst tactical decisions in recent memory. Taking off Ward, leaving us completely exposed down our right and giving the game and control to Spurs. Just do not know what Roy was thinking. That sub cost us any chance of at least a draw. Sako doesn't understand offside.

Sakho should have been braver to score in the first few minutes.

Cabaye played well, but cannot be motm when his poor clearance gave away the goal.

Never a better time to play Spurs and we should have capitalised.

Roy has got to improve on his tactical awareness as that today was a very, very poor decision that cost us.
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Ward motm.

Dann was excellent and nearly scored. Sakho very good. Ward was superb and gets motm for that 10 mins early in the second half when spurs had us under siege. He made maybe 5 blocks, tackles and interceptions that would have been likely goals.
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We got nothing out of a game that we expected nothing, but in the end we should have got at least a point.

Speroni 6
Ward 7
TfM 6
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Cabaye mom. Sakho and Dann very good. Ward Shlupp Luka TFM decent. Wilf was Wilf. Palace were Palace..... again!
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Should have won.

Perhaps one of the worst tactical decisions in recent memory. Taking off Ward, leaving us completely exposed down our right and giving the game and control to Spurs. Just do not know what Roy was thinking. That sub cost us any chance of at least a draw. Sako doesn't understand offside.

Sakho should have been braver to score in the first few minutes.

Cabaye played well, but cannot be motm when his poor clearance gave away the goal.

Never a better time to play Spurs and we should have capitalised.

Roy has got to improve on his tactical awareness as that today was a very, very poor decision that cost us.
I thought Ward was playing left back?
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not to do with divine intervention, maybe to do with the club failing to sign a striker.

Of course and itís been written a million times, but that doesnít change what I wrote.
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TFM moved more central after the sub.
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Exactly how I feel. But the margins between winning and losing have narrowed significantly since the opening game.

What's encouraging is that Roy sets us up well and give or take picks the right team. Defense is now largely working well. Today Speroni barely had a save to make against a top 4 team. Upfront we're creating chances irrespective of the opposition. Why we're not taking the points is simple, we're not taking those chances and scoring goals frequently enough. It's not a surprise - we don't have a striker.

I hope we go to 433 when Benteke is back with Wilf and Andros either side and RLC playing centrally with Luka and Yohan behind him. Benteke wasn't playing well under FDB but I still believe that he's a dangerous striker that needs a run in an organised team. Have him back and we might start turning some of these chances into goals more regularly.

The christmas spend should then be to provide some depth and shape a bench that can provide an effective B plan. Get all that working and I have no doubt we'll start climbing the table. I think Roy is a cunning manager that'll guide us to safety. We saw a glimmer of hope today against Spurs.
disagree re roy . hes a manager that gets 75 per cent right but gets the crucial 25 per cent wrong - hes not decisive when it matters. his game mgt of the last 15 was poor again only 1 sub . We wont win enough under him
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Full of heart and effort but we again fail to do the most important thing. We don't have the quality in the final third to hurt teams. Two new strikers in this team and we'd be a real threat. Such a shame as there was a lot of good aspects to our play today. But it's looking increasingly grim now.

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TFM - 6 - solid. Not the best distribution though.
Ward - 5 - good defending but gave the ball away far too much.
Dann - 8 - best performance for a long time.
Sakho - 9 - absolute quality. Brilliant at times.

Luka - 6 - competed well but sloppy at times in possession
Cabaye - 6 - would have been a 7 as he played well but for the awful mistake and poor setpieces. Cost us the game sadly
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Zaha - 7 - if he rolls in that goal we're talking about a brilliant performance. Shame as he worked so hard and ran them ragged at times

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Hodgson - 6 - he really needs to open up a bit and start going for it. That's two away games in a row that his conservative style hasn't helped. To be fair we look much more solid so credit to him and his team for that but he needs to be more attacking.
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Speroni: 6 Little to do, he wasn't getting to the goal. No wobbles but I'd love him to get a clean sheet.
Fosu-Mensah: 6 Thought he worked hard.
Ward: 7 Bonus point as he has had a hard time occasionally and I thought apart from some wayward touches looked solid. We were more open after he went off.
Dann: 7 Some good defending and offered a threat from corners,
Sakho: 6 Should have scored in the 3rd minute! Other than that competent.
Luka: 5 Thought he wasn't quite on the pace today
Cabaye: 7 Working so hard in every match recently. Wish he could just provide more goal threat.
RLC: 5 One good run near the end where he released Townsend (I think) but needs to offer more (being moved inside might help)
Townsend: 7 Grew into it after an anonymous start. Unlucky with his shot and cross.
Zaha: 6 Our outlet in the first half when he chased a lot of hoofed balls. Made the big chance himself but then and on another occasion composure let him down. He will save us more points than his misses cost us though!
Schlupp: 5 Not sure of his best position or what he really adds to the side other than being an unspectacular squad player.

Sako: 3 Caught offside too often, though probably needed longer

Overall I thought we matched them and looked defensively pretty solid. Got to take those chances though...
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