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Speroni 3 0.85%
Ward 7 1.98%
Sakho 151 42.66%
Dann 45 12.71%
TFM 2 0.56%
Schlupp 1 0.28%
Luka 8 2.26%
RLC 3 0.85%
Cabaye 84 23.73%
Zaha 22 6.21%
Townsend 25 7.06%
Sako 3 0.85%
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Loftus Cheek flatters to decieve but he is no way a right sided midfielder. I suspect we'll not see the best of him unless he plays in a 3 man midfield with Luka and Cabaye. Bit of a conundrum there for me because he's almost the wrong type of loan for us, unless he could be utilised in the gap up front as a surprise tactic. Laziness looks to be an issue with him as well.
Cabaye (clearance apart) Man of the match for me with Dann and Sakho not a million miles behind him. All three were excellent and deserved to be on the winning side.
I think Loftus Cheek is better in a more central area with his creativity.

He is certainly not a workhorse but he definately has quality.

The only problem with this is Roy likes 4-4-2 and the middle of midfield is fine with Cabaye and Luka.

With Andros and Wilf still playing well where do you play him?

I would say that Loftus Cheek best role would be playing off the main striker.
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He does, but was very poor today
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He does, but was very poor today
In what way? Bar him messing round with it and giving away that free kick he done nothing wrong
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The failure to have an adequate strike force haunts us. It means players are not in their right positions. RCL being an example he should be the central forward midfielder. Wilf and Townsend wide.

Ward at left back again a player out of position even though he wouldn't make my first 11.

We have improved but points come as a result of goals.

Quite frankly we should be 8th and Brighton bottom. It's the measure of poor management of resources over our time in the Premier League.
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Schlupp is a terrible player. When a team like ours is struggling to pick up points , we need every player to show some either ability or at least 100% effort he offers neither.
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Deserved a point.

Townsend, Cabaye and Sakho all did well; the former so unlucky just after half time. Thought Tomkins was unlucky not to start but Dann did ok.

Disappointed with Zaha who flattered to deceive. Missed two very good chances especially when the keeper came out, hesitated and the goal was empty. Agree that RLC on the right of midfield doesn't work.

Ground full of football tourists - apart from the away support of course. Not signing a striker this summer is coming back to haunt us in a big way.
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TBH I think it had a lot more to do with the fact that he didnít look, he just hit it.
yes it was composure, lack of

he has been improving his composure in front of goal but still needs to improve this
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Speroni 5, Ward 5, FM 5, Dann 8, Sakho. 9, Luka 6, Cabaye 7, LC 5, Schlupp 5, Townsend 7, Zaha 6

Excellent defensively. Townsend and Zaha a real threat but we were wasteful at times.
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I think Loftus Cheek is better in a more central area with his creativity.

He is certainly not a workhorse but he definately has quality.

The only problem with this is Roy likes 4-4-2 and the middle of midfield is fine with Cabaye and Luka.

With Andros and Wilf still playing well where do you play him?

I would say that Loftus Cheek best role would be playing off the main striker.
Luka was poor.
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Speroni 5, Ward 5, FM 5, Dann 8, Sakho. 9, Luka 6, Cabaye 7, LC 5, Schlupp 5, Townsend 7, Zaha 6

Excellent defensively. Townsend and Zaha a real threat but we were wasteful at times.
Accurate ratings in my opinion. Low marks for midfielder's sums it up for me, not good enough
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Schlupp is a terrible player. When a team like ours is struggling to pick up points , we need every player to show some either ability or at least 100% effort he offers neither.
Schlupp is sloppy with the ball.
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Cabaye different class.
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We give the ball away so cheaply in crucial areas and it invites pressure. Son was waving for the ball on the edge of the box for the goal. Luka was asleep. How many goals has he cost us this season?
RLC canít play wide, defensively heís not good enough nor is his concentration and schlupp plays left back or not at all.

So frustrating, we will never get a better chance to beat this spurs side but we canít be so wasteful in front of goal. We re being exposed for our threadbare squad and bad recruitment.

Sackho or Yo mom for me
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Deserved a point.
We can't keep saying that. We have to start turning chances into goals, and goals into points!

No more excuses and feeling that we deserved better. From here on in it's got to be about a winning mentality. Everton & Stoke must be 6 points - no less!
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Another frustrating result and encouraging performance. The concern being that many more of these Ďalmost matchesí and we could easily wave goodbye to the Premier League. A clean sheet for the first hour was a huge plus and we had looked fairly solid despite heavy pressure. The midfield and defensive unit worked well albeit Ruben regularly failed to cover his man. Timboís Pace and tackling compensated in part. Cabaye had another excellent game until a miss kicked clearance was ruthlessly punished by Son. The words Ďruthlessly punishí are not relevant to us and are the reason we risk relegation. We had many chances, most saved excellently by their 3rd choice keeper who had a blinder and the others inexplicably missed.

Speroni - 6 - had very little to do TBH. Didnít get close to Sonís powerful curling shot into the corner but certainly not a mistake on his part. More an opportunity for what might have been an outstanding save.

Fosu-Mensah - 6 - good solid performance at RB and a couple of times using his pace to cover.

Dann - 7 - regularly win the ball in the air in their box for the first time in ages. Good game. Lost for pace when pulled wide once but overall a good game.

Sakho - 7 - might be harsh but I thought he should have scored when he got clobbered early on. Deserved a pen TBH because there was no reason for being clumped like that. Very good game. Scary at times but gets away with it, so ....

Ward - 6 - better performance from Joel and happier with him there.

Loftus-Cheek - 5 - seems a mistake to me, playing him in effect in the wide defensive slot that Andros does so well while having Andros struggle up front. Has real ability, surging through the middle but less so out wide. Poor concentration.

Luka - 7 - lot of good things today but inexplicably wastes possession too often without pressure. Works very hard though.

Cabaye - 7.5 - MOM - class above, great vision and very hard working. Looks fitter/sharper/quicker than ever. The only weakness was the doh moment when mis-hitting his clearance he gave Son the chance to shoot. Still driving us on right until the end.

Schlupp - 6 - curates egg. Some great moments mixed with naive or dumb play. I think the problem is in his head, not physically. Not sure he will correct it. Good enough today.

Townsend - 6 - disappointing first half when hardly anything worked for him but a pretty good second half. Mystifying TBH. would definitely have swapped him with Ruben role-wise and would have expected a much better game.

Zaha - 6 - probably our biggest threat but not his best game. Struggled more often than usual with beating his marker and really hasnít nailed making the runs that would give him the yard of space he needs. The woeful miss felt bad and proved to be worse when they scored. He has to become more composed if he is to score more goals. Didnít look at the target despite having time and needing to.

Sako - on too late to make a real impact
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Third away game we could/should have won but have lost 0-1.
So bloody frustrating.

Jules 6. Only one pat down save from a Kane shot to make in 95 mins.
Fosu 6. Fairly solid, although there was a lot a space down his side.
Dann 7. Great blocks and tackles.
Sakho 7. See Dann.
Ward 6. Average but mad he has to play there after the £25m we spent in January.
Loftus 4. Anonymous. No defensive cover for Fosu and got no where near Rose. Amazed he's in the England squad.
Cabaye 7. Worked hard for 90 mins
Luka 7. See Cabaye.
Schlupp 5. Adds nothing to the side and so slow when he has the ball.
Townsend 6. Looked good at times but little end product.
Zaha 7. Caused them most trouble, but oh that open goal miss.

Sako 6. Would have liked to see him given longer.

Woy. Just about got the tactics right. His lack of action when we went behind demonstrates how little we have on the bench.
Disagree with last comment - demontstrates the lack of courage Roy has , macca , Tompkins decent options
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Noticed Hargreaves was worrying post match about the same thing as me. How does Roy integrate Benteke back into this team. No question that we need to, but what does that do to the game plan that has improved things. We will find out soon.
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