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View Poll Results: MOM
Speroni 3 0.85%
Ward 7 1.98%
Sakho 151 42.66%
Dann 45 12.71%
TFM 2 0.56%
Schlupp 1 0.28%
Luka 8 2.26%
RLC 3 0.85%
Cabaye 84 23.73%
Zaha 22 6.21%
Townsend 25 7.06%
Sako 3 0.85%
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Speroni - 7 can't blame him for the goal, did everything he needed to.

Ward - 7.5 thought he had a really solid game, felt sorry for being subbed
Dann - 7 Strong enough defensively but his passing is piss poor. How hard is it for him to pass it in front of his man
Mamadou - 7.5 still a class act
TFM -6.5 solid enough considering he had no help

Schlupp - 6 pretty average, would love to see him actually beat a man and deliver a good cross
Luka - 7 solid solid solid, one of the only leaders we have.
Cabaye - 7.5 does everything but put the ball in the back of the net, needs some more options ahead of him.
RLC - 4 Lazy, bottled challenges, isn't track back enough, just not enough effort at all. Jimmy Mac might not be techially as good but at least he busts a gut.

Zaha - 6 not his day, but missed an open net, we can't afford that.
Townsend 7 - Slow to get into the game but was a bright light.

Sako - 4 did he do anything today? Has he ever touched the ball and been onside?

We're getting there, but dreadfully short on quality.
Defensively we look good and Jules has taken a lot of the pressure off.
Luka and Cabeye are becoming a solid pairing in the middle of the park.
No point playing RLC wide because he's just not a winger, he needs an attitude check as well. He might not be with us next year, but he should care about the club enough to put some effort in.
We are crying out for a striker, because Wilf and Andros are more effective it wide. We're getting there and this run of games will make or break us.
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Disagree with last comment - demontstrates the lack of courage Roy has , macca , Tompkins decent options
Neither are game changers, Macca being as slow as Luca and Tomkins a defender, what had Roy got available to him?
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Wilf seemed to fade fast, really should have put his chance away.

Thought we should have brought on Sak-O-ffside 15 minutes earlier to try and shake things up a bit.
On way home, Sako was shite as was RLC / Schlupp got better but started poorly. I’d say GF ratings were spot on. No way did we deserve to lose that and still relatively optimistic that Roy will just about keep us up.
Oh and BT are ***** making it 12 KO. Shit atmosphere.
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Everyone gave 100% with RLC the clear exception, he didnít put in a shift and doesnít appear to care.
The New England recruit will be on our bench when Benteke comes back
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I cannot believe that over half give MOM to Sakho. Our whole defense played well but to me he was marginally the worst of the back four.

He lacked commitment with the early chance ducking out of the header, and did a similar thing later on. Defensively he also seemed hesitant heading the ball. He will have better games than this one.

Ward was superb even on the wrong flank, with some outstanding blocks and tackles.

Dann arguably made the most clearances, and was constantly organising the defense. Plus he was the greatest threat at our set pieces.

TFM had little help against Rose, but was really cool under pressure
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In what way? Bar him messing round with it and giving away that free kick he done nothing wrong
I think he has to play left back or not at all. He's no good in midfield and lacks any desire to get forward. He needs to sharpen up but I think he's our best bet at left back.
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I cannot believe that over half give MOM to Sakho. Our whole defense played well but to me he was marginally the worst of the back four.

He lacked commitment with the early chance ducking out of the header, and did a similar thing later on. Defensively he also seemed hesitant heading the ball. He will have better games than this one.

Ward was superb even on the wrong flank, with some outstanding blocks and tackles.

Dann arguably made the most clearances, and was constantly organising the defense. Plus he was the greatest threat at our set pieces.

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Absolute madness. Sakho was brilliant.
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Noticed Hargreaves was worrying post match about the same thing as me. How does Roy integrate Benteke back into this team. No question that we need to, but what does that do to the game plan that has improved things. We will find out soon.
He starts no doubt. The game plan has resulted in four measly points. We need to change the way we are set up as this limited 4-4-2 isn't working from an attacking perspective. Best to go back to Zaha and Townsend either side of benteke with RLC in behind and Cabaye and Luka in central midfield. We are crying out for this formation and line up. At the moment too many players are out of position and 99% of the squad don't score.
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Absolute madness. Sakho was brilliant.
Should have buried his headed chance which led to him being whacked round the head. I still don't understand how/ why he completely missed the ball.

He had a decent game other than that though.
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I never thought I would see Sakho chicken out of a header but he did......He played well for the rest of the game though.
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Why the hell should we be worried about bringing Benteke back into the side? We have no fecking striker.
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As good as Cabaye was his clearance is the reason (a) we lost and as well as Wilf played his miss is the reason we didn't (b) win or draw. Small margins as every professional sports coach will tell you.
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Come on, Zaha is great but if any other player missed that most of you would be up in arms.
And I was (and am) up in arms. Zaha cost us the 3 points today. BUT I won't be saying that again for the rest of the season, guaranteed, and that's the difference. Really sad to see Wilf's head go down for 20 mins after that glaring miss as well. Someone should have spoken to him.
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TBH I think it had a lot more to do with the fact that he didn’t look, he just hit it.
In a way, it could be a positve. The whole world sees it, thinks he's shit, and underestimates him for the rest of the season. Will do me!
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Mutch would have offered more than RLC today ( and most of last week). Utterly abysmal again. I don’t care if you’re paying out of position, you still put a shift in. See ward for example. Strolled around again like it was a pre season. He either plays in the middle or doesn’t play, simple as that. Was like playing with ten men for most of it. How the hell he got an England call up is beyond me
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Speroni 6 little to do but tidy

Ward 6 defended well, but right footed
Sakho 7 MOM defended very well
Dann 6 solid
TFM 6 learning but talented

Schlupp 5 not enough contribution for me
Luka 6 fine
Cabaye 7 won ball
RLC 5 fairly anonymous

Zaha 5 awful miss. Shame because ok other than that
Townsend 7 bright and a ball of energy

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Kevin Friend 4 gave us very little and blew for stoppages when their guy went down, but nothing when our guy was on the floor.
Agree with almost all of that. Thought Wilf's miss was unfortunate but his decision making today was poor. Cabaye went missing for most of the game.
Thought Dann and Sakho looked a good pair
Friend was pathetic. Son conned him to stop a great chance for us.
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Mutch would have offered more than RLC today ( and most of last week). Utterly abysmal again. I donít care if youíre paying out of position, you still put a shift in. See ward for example. Strolled around again like it was a pre season. He either plays in the middle or doesnít play, simple as that. Was like playing with ten men for most of it. How the hell he got an England call up is beyond me
Mutch has never offered anything before other than when he scores goals in pre season friendlies against park teams so why would he now
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Schlupp is a terrible player. When a team like ours is struggling to pick up points , we need every player to show some either ability or at least 100% effort he offers neither.
It's gonna be an interesting race between him and PVA over who can wrestle the title "worse ever palace signing" away from Jordan Mutch.

Personally I'm backing Schlupp. Woeful footballer with the touch of a Hollywood movie producer.
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Mutch has never offered anything before other than when he scores goals in pre season friendlies against park teams so why would he now
Thatís my point about how bad RLC has been the last two (bar when playing through the middle)
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