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Old 05-11-2017, 11:10 PM
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Can be fatal injuries from pyros in grounds.
Im not condoning this activity, but the stuff Ive seen our fans set off is not that sort of flare. They dont rocket off across the ground like a massive firework.

Id like to think no Palace fan could possibly condone or encourage any sort of propelled firework type flare being used, such as the one you have linked to.

I saw them holding up the smoke things when we were at Chelsea and they looked like the sort of thing that you see yachtsman holding aloft when they win a race. They let out a big plume of coloured smoke.
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Old 05-11-2017, 11:17 PM
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Hi Dave - hope your boy was okay after the explosion. I was sitting very near you and right in front of the Holmesdale Fanatics.

The thunderclap was set off within the Fanatics group who were standing in a small block at the rear of section 114. Whoever set it off clearly used a couple of rows of their group to act as a shield so that they could not be observed by Police and stewards who were standing just below them in the vomitory.
Not only did it shock many around us but it also seemed to deaden the general atmosphere. After the bombing attacks at public gatherings in Manchester, Paris and Brussels over the last few years this was particularly worrying for many supporters. Also following the earlier moment of remembrance for those far braver than them it was especially insensitive.
Yet again our friends have let the club down. One of them has used the block sale of tickets by the club to their group to hide from view. This follows the incidents at Chelsea when they were allocated seats at the front of the upper tier where they set off flares and several loud explosions. The photo below shows a rucksack full of pyrotechnics that was found in Brompton Cemetery that day. Did someone seriously think they could take this cache into a football game?
Other notorious incidents by them have been at Liverpool, Bolton and at Selhurst, only days after the Paris attacks, when a loud explosion under the Selhurst railway bridge was set off as they were escorted to the ground and clearly frightened many fans just before the game.

Many people falsely believe that we have well behaved fans. Whilst the press may laud the ‘famous atmosphere’, amongst the Police Constabularies we have a more notorious reputation. At the SAG meetings the Met Police will regularly read out a litany of incidents that take place at away games, usually away from the ground. When we were in the Championship we had probably the worst club reputation. This is not the same sort of reputation that club ‘firms’ would gain in the 80’s but more a whole series of anti-social behaviour incidents. This information is shared by the Police intelligence officers and club security officers so it directly affects their match planning and the restrictions imposed on all our fans.
I feel sorry for their organisers who clearly put a lot of effort into planning displays, away trips and even merchandising only to be let down by the inconsiderate actions of a few. How much longer can the club continue to appease this group without confirmation that it has some control over its members? Can you actually organise a group of anarchists?
As I have said before we reap what we sow; actions by a few result in restrictions on the many. Of course the Brighton restrictions are not directly due to these problems but it all adds up.

As a warning to them the other photo shows what can happen when a pyrotechnic went off early in the hand,or at least what was left of it, of an Ultra in Italy.

**** sake..

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Meanwhile in Switzerland this afternoon..



I wonder how many people died?

Bunch of ******* pussies in this country.
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And meanwhile in France..



Inconsiderate bastards. I bet everyone thought they were terrorists.
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I think people simply have the right not to be left in any doubt that a loud explosion in a stadium/arena is something they should feel edgy about.

Would you let one off on a tube and expect everyone to have a jolly good laugh about it?

They have no upside! Who thinks it helps the team or the atmosphere?
I dont like them and think they should be banned from stadiums due to the damage they can do to people's ear, as I myself have tinnitus caused from a loud bang. My point wasnt whether they have a place at football, more whether people actually have the thought process that they could be 'terrorist attack' as some earlier posters mentioned, or are just assuming an hypothetical person may perceive it as much?

When I hear it, I just think bloody pryo, not 'quick to the exit Al Qaeda are coming'
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******* hell. Even the Danish are at it this afternoon.



Death toll across Europe must have been huge.
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I find the bangers annoying only because I have tinnitus and dont want to make it worse, but if I find those that have been sucked into project fear by the media in regard to hearing a bang go off and think it's terrorists is a stretch. Does anyone actually have this response, or are they worried for other hypothetical people that will have that response?
I've built a nuclear bunker for the annual 5th November bangs.You can never be too safe.Any one of them could be something other than a firework.
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Annoys me they can get into the ground as could equally be somdthing from a terrorist. Y
i got searched twice when entering the ground.... full search/rub down etc etc.......whats the point of doing it to just a few people.!1

I was also close to the HF where the bang and flares came from..... they are a pain in the arse.
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Old 06-11-2017, 01:19 AM
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******* hell this country is so pussified. Oh no, a loud bang!!! At a football match!!! Heaven help us... write a stern letter to the FA and/or your local mp why don’t you...
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Last 5 minutes and we were moving forward with the ball when this went off, lost it quickly after the explosion

Convinced it distracted out attack, well done you absolute ****
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i got searched twice when entering the ground.... full search/rub down etc etc.......whats the point of doing it to just a few people.!1

I was also close to the HF where the bang and flares came from..... they are a pain in the arse.
Probably where they hid the firework.
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- pyro in the stadium;

- report of Palace fans throwing fireworks into the Blue Check Restaurant at Wembley;

- 30 fans attacking a pub full of Spurs fans with flag poles, police and ambulances in attendance.

Just a normal matchday, nothing to see here.

I think some of our fans will be happier in the Championship amongst the likes of Leeds, Millwall and Birmingham.
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I dont like them and think they should be banned from stadiums due to the damage they can do to people's ear, as I myself have tinnitus caused from a loud bang. My point wasnt whether they have a place at football, more whether people actually have the thought process that they could be 'terrorist attack' as some earlier posters mentioned, or are just assuming an hypothetical person may perceive it as much?

When I hear it, I just think bloody pryo, not 'quick to the exit Al Qaeda are coming'
Righto so it’s a total over reaction to not appreciate a loud explosion at an event in a city where attacks have taken place several times this year but if Kevin spacey shows you his winky it’s perfectly normal to blame that for a lifetime of under confidence and nightmares.

No hypothetical about it. I took my Mrs to the game yesterday (her first one) she said “was that a bloody bomb?”. Obviously I thought it more likely to be a double hard hf letting off a “pyro”. She wasn’t traumatised but why should everyone be made to jump/put on edge? So our vip guests can show off in front of their mates?

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- pyro in the stadium;

- report of Palace fans throwing fireworks into the Blue Check Restaurant at Wembley;

- 30 fans attacking a pub full of Spurs fans with flag poles, police and ambulances in attendance.

Just a normal matchday, nothing to see here.

I think some of our fans will be happier in the Championship amongst the likes of Leeds, Millwall and Birmingham.
When the HF and other fans got attacked by 300 Man Utd fans, was you being this much of a bellend?
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