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Old 16-11-2017, 07:27 PM
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I think we're flakey at the top. Our middle batting (accepted that Stokes is a big miss now) will win us games
I was talking about Australia being flaky not us, but yes I agree our top 4 have to score runs we canít keep being 30 or 40 odd for 3
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Old 16-11-2017, 07:29 PM
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I was talking about Australia being flaky not us, but yes I agree our top 4 have to score runs we canít keep being 30 or 40 odd for 3
Oh ok. It was you're 'they're like us' that foxed me
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Old 16-11-2017, 08:14 PM
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Old 16-11-2017, 08:15 PM
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Old 16-11-2017, 08:16 PM
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I think the first Test is pretty pivotal.......

We’ll definitely win at least one test. Other than that **** knows.
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Old 16-11-2017, 08:18 PM
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Seriously though, if we bat first we'll have a good chance in any test. But i don't fancy to win any test batting second, we just don't seem to have the spirit or backbone to chase any total.
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Old 16-11-2017, 08:25 PM
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I generally like the Aussies and in my experience there are a disproportionately high number of Aussie Palace fans for some reason (who are good lads).

When it comes to the Ashes though, **** em!

I’m sure the feeling is mutual and that’s what makes it special.
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Agree with you 3 1 to England. Australia are a poor team at the moment.
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Tim Paine doesn't even keep for Tasmania and has made one score in 2 years.
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Old 17-11-2017, 07:23 AM
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Paine not even first choice for Tassie and Marsh has had more chances than I care to remember.
Selectors & Co better know what they're doing FFS.
Have gone from being fairly confident to very pessimistic about this series now.

Reeks of panic to me, but who the **** am I to judge the experts of Australian cricket.
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Old 17-11-2017, 07:30 AM
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Paine not even first choice for Tassie and Marsh has had more chances than I care to remember.
Selectors & Co better know what they're doing FFS.
Have gone from being fairly confident to very pessimistic about this series now.

Reeks of panic to me, but who the **** am I to judge the experts of Australian cricket.
Who were the alternatives to Paine ?
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Old 17-11-2017, 07:48 AM
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Paine has always been rated as a good keeper. Just had some horrific injuries.
Must have done some impressive keeping in the CA game against England to get in.
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Old 17-11-2017, 08:23 AM
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Paine has always been rated as a good keeper. Just had some horrific injuries.
Must have done some impressive keeping in the CA game against England to get in.
Jim Maxwell has been rather put out by this decision on BBC radio this morning. Been quite heartening
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Who were the alternatives to Paine ?
Nevill- Competent keeper but can't make a run.
Wade- average keeper, competent bat, but again can't make a run.
Hanscomb- part time keeper but better than a part timer, good bat.
Bancroft- similar to Hanscomb.

My issue with Paine is that he's barely played and is Tasmanias #2 behind Wade. Go figure. He is certainly a good player but with minimal games under his belt for an Ashes slog.
Marsh is a weird one as well.
If we're going to blame our keepers for a lack of runs then surely our top order must be under some serious pressure.
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