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View Poll Results: Are the hf good or bad for the club?
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Like most, I’m somewhere on the fence.

66% of the time they do well for the club and have helped the atmosphere. I don’t think that can be disputed. They’ve also made some nice tributes.

However, the over inflated ego (their own player of the year) and belief that they almost have some control in what happens at the club grates.
While I’m a lot of their members weren’t involved on Tuesday, equally I’m pretty sure that some were involved. And those who weren’t certainly appeared that they want to be involved in the HF. They are keen to make a statement when they want fans to donate, yet won’t make a statement condemning the actions.
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You say about their inflated ego Tomo but then you want a statement from them?

...Why?

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Wankers with a bloody annoying drum and sleep inducing funeral dirges.

Anyone remember Chelsea away?
'Let's show those Chelsea mugs what real support is all about' and then arrange to meet at Blackfriars on the other side of London waiting for their police escort.

Man Utd in the cup final. All previous Wembley games had been The Globe at Baker Street. Suddenly they announced they were going to Covent Garden. I wonder why.

******* idiots the lot of them......and lefties.

And why do they still get preferential treatment for away tickets?
Incredible insight there O.B. I’m sure you were at The Globe for the Semi Final v Watford, where people could hardly move on the pavement outside the pub, let alone get into it, so of course, why not have that crap experience all over again for the Final but with hundreds of mancs joining in too!

Of all the many issues other Palace fans have with the HF, being a leftie must be way up on the list - why can’t they all be rampant Tories like the Main Stand or Liberals as the majority of Whitehorse Enders are?

As for preferential treatment, obviously not great if any regular follower of Palace misses out, but surely the wider issue is how the capitalists have manipulated the working classes into having to pay a premium for a restricted seating area, whereas, before the introduction of all seated stadiums, there would have been several times the capacity available and there would be none of the infighting we are seeing over memberships and points.

Come the day of the revolution, fawning captilalist right wing filth, such as Ooh ******* Betty will be the first to be lined up against the wall and a huge pyro detonated up his opulent tory arse.

For an agent provocateur, you really must try harder, O.B.
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Sick of them now . They are boring the pants off me these days, same funeral dirges, same pathetic displays of petulance and self importance. The railing against authority stuff I can understand to a point. But turfing other palace fans out of their seats is going way too far in my book . They need to grow up or obtain some pubic hairs before dabbling in grown up pursuits..
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Sick of them now . They are boring the pants off me these days, same funeral dirges, same pathetic displays of petulance and self importance. The railing against authority stuff I can understand to a point. But turfing other palace fans out of their seats is going way too far in my book . They need to grow up or obtain some pubic hairs before dabbling in grown up pursuits..
Turging people out of seats has sadly always been a thing when a boozed up minority pile into a ground late and try and stand next to each other.

Setting aside a block that want to be together/sing etc. seems the sensible solution.
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Just my opinion from people I know who have gone on the march. All with anti-Muslim, right wing history.

Then throw in Tommy Robinson getting involved in it and then regardless of what the group says its objectives are etc, I donít have any time for it.

Maybe time will prove I am wrong on them.

Apologies for diverting the thread by the way
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Tommy Robinson has nothing to do with it.

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There were many times over the last 40 years when I found it difficult to get motivated to travel the long distances to Selhurst. Yes, away games were always fun but there wasn't much fun to be had at Selhurst over the years. The two groups in the Arthur Wait and Holmesdale did a huge amount to turn this around. Its unfortunate that the former were pretty much disbanded following the infamous Bristol City game and mismanagement of the aftermath. Since, then, the HF have done more than anyone else to make going to Selhurst less of a chore, even when the entertainment on the pitch has been seriously lacking.

Away from home, they are a bit more of a mixed bag. They were prominent in some of the most enjoyable away games of recent times including Peterborough, Charlton, the play off final, Chelsea, FA Cup Final etc. Conversely they have also caused quite a lot of aggravation in some games by insisting on standing in areas occupied by others, throwing pyros around etc. On balance, even away from home I would say their worst excesses are far less of an irritation than some of the neanderthals of all ages who I have seen cause trouble at games.

So for me its definitely overwhelmingly positive but of course hoping they don't become a front for a new band of trouble makers.
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Used to be great, not so good now. No respect for fellow fans and they actually seem to be killing the atmosphere at away games lately.
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There were many times over the last 40 years when I found it difficult to get motivated to travel the long distances to Selhurst. Yes, away games were always fun but there wasn't much fun to be had at Selhurst over the years. The two groups in the Arthur Wait and Holmesdale did a huge amount to turn this around. Its unfortunate that the former were pretty much disbanded following the infamous Bristol City game and mismanagement of the aftermath. Since, then, the HF have done more than anyone else to make going to Selhurst less of a chore, even when the entertainment on the pitch has been seriously lacking.

Away from home, they are a bit more of a mixed bag. They were prominent in some of the most enjoyable away games of recent times including Peterborough, Charlton, the play off final, Chelsea, FA Cup Final etc. Conversely they have also caused quite a lot of aggravation in some games by insisting on standing in areas occupied by others, throwing pyros around etc. On balance, even away from home I would say their worst excesses are far less of an irritation than some of the neanderthals of all ages who I have seen cause trouble at games.

So for me its definitely overwhelmingly positive but of course hoping they don't become a front for a new band of trouble makers.
Peterborough was a great atmosphere but it had very little to do with the HF!! It was a good time to be a palace fan and it was a terrace with a low roof perfect for making a noise and we won the game. I also think we always produce a good noise at chelsea also regardless as to whether they are there.

I genuinely don't think they have impacted away atmospheres. In fact as others have suggested at times they have killed them.

Home it was undoubted but there was a good atmosphere in those blocks of the holmesdale for many years before they came about we had just gone through a poor period. I suspect promotion would have done a great deal for that as it does for lots of teams putting all the positives down to them is simply too much.
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The atmosphere that day was unreal and the whole stand was rocking not just the HF. But to be fair the stand was rocking to HF introduced chants like When I was a young boy, we love you, pride of south london etc in an 'ultra style' with the drum going behind the goal and being sung for longer than 30 seconds etc. So 'very little to do with HF' is harsh, the support was galvanised and everyone on the same side.
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Turging people out of seats has sadly always been a thing when a boozed up minority pile into a ground late and try and stand next to each other.

Setting aside a block that want to be together/sing etc. seems the sensible solution.
Thatís what the club has been doing for them and, in my experience of away matches, thatís been better.

However, the impression I have of yesterday is that they wanted a different block and decided theyíd have it, regardless of others already there.
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I don't think it is questionable that the HF since 2005 have been positive. The fact we are now famous for our atmosphere is down to their leadership and example, however, there have obviously been quite a few examples which have caused a stir. It's difficult, can you have a group of young male fanatics without a few misdemeanors? Can you simply just pick the best of both world's? You also have to consider some of the things they have done have been blown completely out of proportion ( I think the flair at Liverpool away was one example prat Norwood Junction a while back)
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HF are great, I pray that one day we qualify for Europe so that we can play some Russian club and they can show their Ultras whats up....
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