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Old 02-12-2017, 05:54 AM
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Hardly the same. If someone walked in to your office and you were playing Call of Duty, that would hardly be the same as someone walking in to your office and your looking at porn. Someone going on the internet too much at work is likely to get a warning at most. Someone looking at porn is likely to be sacked.
Plus of course the Tory's under May have had a clearly puritanical and pro surveillance bent to them.
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Old 02-12-2017, 06:24 AM
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Also worked in the public sector.

Four members of staff in my old place were dismissed for much less than Damian Green has done in 2002.

Sadly, hardly surprising that Green hasn't been sacked yet though it would be a massive bonus if he was and David "toxic" Davis followed him to the back benches.

David ‘bulldog’ Davis is looking for a way out. Bring on the next Brexit nitwit ( Gove, Rees Mogg etc. ) As Davis has discovered, it’s not so easy. Damien Green is a godsend to Davis.
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Old 02-12-2017, 06:38 AM
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The key thing is that it was on his work computer. For the last 20 years all credible companies have had an internet use policy that would have classified this as gross misconduct, had it been on his home computer then I have no problem (except for illegal porn). The fact that this goes back 10 years is partly an excuse, but only if it had been dealt with fairly back then (I.e. sacked for gross misconduct) because I doubt whether he would have made it to deputy PM had that process taken place. And if I had gone to the head of HR and said, as DD seems to be saying, 'if he goes then i go' then I'm sure they would be happy to say 'see ya!'
Its a shame to lose DG as he seems like a good guy (aside from tribal politics), DD comes across as a blakmailing twit, and the ex-police that leaked this should be charged if they have breached the terms of their contract and made money from this
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Old 02-12-2017, 07:24 AM
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Apparently David Davis has said if Green goes he goes too so i can only see that as a win win
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Old 02-12-2017, 08:49 AM
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Mutual masterbation, probably stems from playing soggy biscuit at Eaton.
I know you lefties like going on about peoples' backgrounds but didn't he live on a council estate
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Old 02-12-2017, 08:52 AM
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The worst thing for me is that it looks like he lied about the porn and the knee touching incident. Be interesting to see if he does step down bearing in mind David Davis is reported to be considering resigning in support of him. The Tories seem to be implying a police vendetta,but they would say that.
David Davis, a square peg, is desperately trying to find a legitimate excuse to leave his round hole job. Would be nice to get two Tories for the price of one.
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Old 02-12-2017, 08:57 AM
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Old 02-12-2017, 09:04 AM
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Always happy to see Tories squirm, but you can't have the police acting like this. They could easily plant evidence on politicians they don't like.

In fact, in the current witch hunt atmosphere, all they have to do is make an accusation. Latest to be burnt at the stake are poor old Garrison Keillor, for putting his hand on a woman's back!, and Geoffrey Rush, buried in the media by an anonymous accuser for unspecified "inappropriate behaviour".
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Old 02-12-2017, 09:05 AM
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I don’t know, the whole thing seems pretty dubious to me.

A dodgy search, 9 years ago and now these police guys talking about it rather than going through the proper processes.

Either bring the case at the time when it can be properly investigated, or leave it.
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Old 02-12-2017, 09:08 AM
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I don’t know, the whole thing seems pretty dubious to me.

A dodgy search, 9 years ago and now these police guys talking about it rather than going through the proper processes.

Either bring the case at the time when it can be properly investigated, or leave it.
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Old 02-12-2017, 09:26 AM
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Mutual masterbation, probably stems from playing soggy biscuit at Eaton.
I'm no fan of DD but perhaps you should research his background.
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Old 02-12-2017, 09:50 AM
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I don’t know, the whole thing seems pretty dubious to me.

A dodgy search, 9 years ago and now these police guys talking about it rather than going through the proper processes.

Either bring the case at the time when it can be properly investigated, or leave it.
You say dodgy search, but look into the reason for it and it seems quite legit. Green was involved in potentially criminal activity with leaking of sensitive information from the Home Office.

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My interest in this has been piqued by his denial. The porn stuff doesn't bother me.

Question to those from the legal profession:

He has denied 'watching or downloading porn'. The police found thumbnails that may have just been part of his history.

I associate the word 'watching' with videos. I would use 'looking at' for pictures.

So is he telling the truth, by being clever with his wording? He hasn't actually watched or downloaded anything, but is carefully avoiding confessing to looking at pictures.
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You say dodgy search, but look into the reason for it and it seems quite legit. Green was involved in potentially criminal activity with leaking of sensitive information from the Home Office.

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It's funny hearing the establishment shills insist that this case goes through official channels. I'm guessing that's just so it can be buried...
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My interest in this has been piqued by his denial. The porn stuff doesn't bother me.

Question to those from the legal profession:

He has denied 'watching or downloading porn'. The police found thumbnails that may have just been part of his history.

I associate the word 'watching' with videos. I would use 'looking at' for pictures.

So is he telling the truth, by being clever with his wording? He hasn't actually watched or downloaded anything, but is carefully avoiding confessing to looking at pictures.
I'm not a legal person but if the images are part of his browsing history it means they have been downloaded.
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My interest in this has been piqued by his denial. The porn stuff doesn't bother me.

Question to those from the legal profession:

He has denied 'watching or downloading porn'. The police found thumbnails that may have just been part of his history.

I associate the word 'watching' with videos. I would use 'looking at' for pictures.

So is he telling the truth, by being clever with his wording? He hasn't actually watched or downloaded anything, but is carefully avoiding confessing to looking at pictures.
Listen mate, it is indefensible. Thumbnails videos or pictures, you just don't get those appearing on anything other than the kind of websites that would constitute an act of gross misconduct and sacking for any of us here.
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