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View Poll Results: Should referees get abuse?
They don't get enough. We need to up the abuse. 32 41.56%
It's a free for all. Anything within in the law is ok. 20 25.97%
They get a bit too much abuse. 16 20.78%
The abuse, by and large, should be cut out. 8 10.39%
It's all the fault of the Holmesdale Fanatics. Even at other clubs. 1 1.30%
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Should referees get abuse?

Was just thinking about it, and is it right?

I've dished it out and so does my dad. But not sure, if I think about it, if I'm that comfortable with it.

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Should wear body-cam and players cited for comments that are abusive and insulting. I suspect that the footage might undermine the perception of independence that they like to maintain, showing all the matey chat they have with players.
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Should wear body-cam and players cited for comments that are abusive and insulting. I suspect that the footage might undermine the perception of independence that they like to maintain, showing all the matey chat they have with players.
I don't know for sure but in rugby isn't any back chat to the ref automatically penalised? Let alone abuse.
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I referee every Sunday in a men’s League. I get very little abuse as I communicate with teams, work with them and make rationale and clear decisions that I am happy to explain. Some of the refereeing performances at Selhurst this season have been beyond Sunday morning. Step forward Bobby Madley as one of the biggest culprits. Inept is too kind to describe him. So...should referees get abuse? Only if they can’t control the game and get the key decisions right which has been a worrying number of times this season.
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An exception would be Clattenburg... he needs to be burnt at the stake
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An exception would be Clattenburg... he needs to be burnt at the stake
He would probably say that it was unfair on the fire and stake, as it would look like it was all about him
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Was just thinking about it, and is it right?

I've dished it out and so does my dad. But not sure, if I think about it, if I'm that comfortable with it.

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I don't think refs do that job to make friends but I can't think of much worse jobs where thousands of people are there to abuse you, sometimes on tv, whether you make a mistake or not. I don't envy them so I say cut them some slack...until they screw up in the opponents favor
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I can think of one or two who have probably deserved abuse but on the whole it probably does little good, other than allowing the fans to let off steam. However, players should never argue with or abuse refs; there will only be one winner.
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I can think of one or two who have probably deserved abuse but on the whole it probably does little good, other than allowing the fans to let off steam. However, players should never argue with or abuse refs; there will only be one winner.
I think players abuse refs because there is no sanction, in reality.
Moving a free kick 10 metres further forward did not really help, but - moving a free-kick to where the player gobbed off might. Ideally the ref blows up and then stands nearer the middle of the pitch when a free kick is given out wide.
I have no grasp of the technicalities, but if the game has been stopped, infringements can still happen (dissent for example) - so move the free kick to where that happened. Or give the team the decision which of the two places to take the kick from.
For example, think about the last few seconds of the game and the ball is about to be pinged from half-way in to the mixer from a free-kick. Gobby defender gives it all the chops to the ref', he blows up and the free-kick is now on the edge of the box.

Or sin-bin for specific offences, like dissent.

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It is a very difficult job and one that it is impossible for a ref to get it right every time. So this should be taken into account and honest mistakes tolerated as the best one can.

However when you get Clattenburg talking about game management and his concerns about the headlines if he had sent off the three Spurs he believed he should have, then we have every right to question the basis for some of their decisions and not simply write them off as mistakes when they get it wrong.

Apparently, because I keep hearing it said, Clattenburg is a very good referee, so forgive me if I tend to get a little angry, and a tad suspicious, when I remember his performance in the FA cup final and wonder what 'game management' skills he brought to the table that required him totally ignoring the advantage rule.
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What if the fans got behind the ref. He might subconciously favour us
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