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He played well today and has done alright in the recent other games, all credit to him, but i have seen too many poor performances to declare him better than Sahko, Tomkins or Dann.
You’re basing that on him being played largely out of position? How do you think Dann would do at full back? Would you judge him on that?
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I have always liked Martin Kelly. Ok he hasn't always been great but he is a real team player. He hasn't moaned at all despite long spells without first team action, and always gives his all when he does get a chance.

My ONE frustration has always been that despite him putting in solid performances at Centre Back (with the occasional bad one), he still seems to be utilised more as a back up Right Back or even a Left Back. The guy himself has even stated in the past his best position is Centre Back.

I hope we use him at CB in future and only at RB in an extreme emergency. As much as he gave his all I hope to never see him on the Left ever again.

Very useful squad player. Actually gives his all and can perform a job unlike people like Mutch and Lee.
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He's been a better player for about a year with some good performances when being coached by Sammy Lee. That seems to have continued.

I don't think we need to buy a cb when we need a gk and striker, if there's any money left we probably need to be looking at the midfield.
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supported Palace nearly 40 years .Always amazed how some idiots yell abuse at our own players .how can that help them improve .Palace have nearly always signed players who need time to improve
What particularly annoys me is people giving him stick when he's playing out of position. I presume these people have never actually played football before it makes a massive difference.

With Dann and Sakho out he may well turn out to be a bit of unsung hero for us.
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He's been a better player for about a year with some good performances when being coached by Sammy Lee. That seems to have continued.

I don't think we need to buy a cb when we need a gk and striker, if there's any money left we probably need to be looking at the midfield.
Kelly isnt the issue. The real problem is we are down to Kelly and Tomkins and we all know as good as JT is he is likely to breakdown at any point. And then at the moment we are down to Delaney.

With all the will in the world if we end up with Kelly and Delaney as a CB pairing we are in deep shit and that is me being polite. Until yesterday CB wasn't a priority, but with Dann's season looking over it may well now have become as big of one as a Proper First choice Goalkeeper and a decent Center Forward.
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He's been a better player for about a year with some good performances when being coached by Sammy Lee. That seems to have continued.

I don't think we need to buy a cb when we need a gk and striker, if there's any money left we probably need to be looking at the midfield.
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Gave away the best freekick and took a booking that was as important to us as the penalty save was for City.
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Kelly isnt the issue. The real problem is we are down to Kelly and Tomkins and we all know as good as JT is he is likely to breakdown at any point. And then at the moment we are down to Delaney.

With all the will in the world if we end up with Kelly and Delaney as a CB pairing we are in deep shit and that is me being polite. Until yesterday CB wasn't a priority, but with Dann's season looking over it may well now have become as big of one as a Proper First choice Goalkeeper and a decent Center Forward.
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I think he is better at CB which is just as well. We are stretched to the limit. Still a mistake waiting to happening I am afraid
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At CB he's okay for short stretches but you wouldn't rely on him holding us up for half a season.
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It is all about having the right partner - hence the big worry as if Tomkins gets an injury we are truly screwed (Damo!!!!!!!!)
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I think if you analyse Kellys performance purely post Pardew then we have a premier league standard CB. Its probably unfair to think back to prior to that when he was often played out of position or in an unorganised defence.
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Spot on.

Sakho is treated differently, he takes liberties all the time.

Not that we see much of our £26 m signing.
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He did have a good game, but I wouldn't want to rely on him for the rest of the season. He's generally very weak and gets beaten in the air by everyone. I think that's why he did so well against City, they don't have a lot of big players. I expect to see him come unstuck against more physical teams although I pray I'm wrong.

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Agree completely, understand he's the type of squad player a club like us needs though for situations similar to that which we have at the moment.
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Good, solid pro - pleased that he is in our squad.

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