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Old 02-01-2018, 11:36 AM
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Massively underrated. Has proven himself to be an excellent step in centre back under BFS and Roy.
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Old 02-01-2018, 12:05 PM
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I think if you analyse Kellys performance purely post Pardew then we have a premier league standard CB. Its probably unfair to think back to prior to that when he was often played out of position or in an unorganised defence.
He got hung out to dry being played at left back, as would most of the rest of the defence.
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Old 02-01-2018, 12:13 PM
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At CB he's okay for short stretches but you wouldn't rely on him holding us up for half a season.
This. Gets beaten in the air and bullied by forwards (Long at Saints last year took the mick). However, he is a good passer and is fairly mobile
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Old 02-01-2018, 12:14 PM
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Massively underrated. Has proven himself to be an excellent step in centre back under BFS and Roy.
Actually I think heís just become overrated

If he plays the rest of the games this season he will have five terrible games minimum. He was awful just a few games ago and we got lucky he wasnít punished. The bbs bandwagon is gaining momentum. Itís better than the unfair mauling benteke is getting as itís positive but itís only setting unfair expectations for Kelly. Truth is heís decent back up and thatís it. Not here for long term starts.

Heís a good pro, a nice versatile back up player but heís not good enough to be our main man. Weíll go down if we rely on him too much and the more building up he gets now, the harder itíll be when you all turn on him
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Old 02-01-2018, 12:19 PM
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Actually I think heís just become overrated

If he plays the rest of the games this season he will have five terrible games minimum. He was awful just a few games ago and we got lucky he wasnít punished. The bbs bandwagon is gaining momentum. Itís better than the unfair mauling benteke is getting as itís positive but itís only setting unfair expectations for Kelly. Truth is heís decent back up and thatís it. Not here for long term starts.

Heís a good pro, a nice versatile back up player but heís not good enough to be our main man. Weíll go down if we rely on him too much and the more building up he gets now, the harder itíll be when you all turn on him
Is that the philosophy of shooting a man before he is down?
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Old 02-01-2018, 02:46 PM
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Skysports website have a piece on players out of contract in the summer. In our very long list they include Martin Kelly. Is that right? I thought he had signed an extension.
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Highly underrated by many. An integral part of the squad just like Mariappa was. Prone to the odd mistake - but that's why he is not first choice.
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Old 02-01-2018, 11:16 PM
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Another solid performance in his favoured position - what a surprise. Give him the credit he deserves at last. A f*cking decent Premier League centre half.
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Quietly good and got the job done. This is definitely his favoured position.
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Skysports website have a piece on players out of contract in the summer. In our very long list they include Martin Kelly. Is that right? I thought he had signed an extension.
It was reported he did in the local press I think. I just don't think it was announced or publicised much so most of the big probably media missed it.
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Quietly good and got the job done. This is definitely his favoured position.

Have always said he is Centre Half not a Right Back. He proved it last season and has done so again this season. The go to guy when we run out of Centre Backs and we seem to be jinxed in this area no doubt. He has forged a decent partnership with Tomkins as well. An unsung hero.
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Have always said he is Centre Half not a Right Back.
Probably because it's bleed*n obvious. However personally, I feel far less worried when Martin as at full back as it is less of a key position. It is easier to play it a certain way, with teamwork, to minimise damage. I just can't be doing with CB's who can't dominate in the air and I feel bad because the fella is a great pro and indeed played in the wins v Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool last term etc. We do need a CB in that improves our 4th option in the position.
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I don't see us getting many better fourth choice CBs than him. The trick is to stop buying injury prone players them it would be less of an issue.
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Probably because it's bleed*n obvious. However personally, I feel far less worried when Martin as at full back as it is less of a key position. It is easier to play it a certain way, with teamwork, to minimise damage. I just can't be doing with CB's who can't dominate in the air and I feel bad because the fella is a great pro and indeed played in the wins v Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool last term etc. We do need a CB in that improves our 4th option in the position.
In possession of the ball seems to be his real let down when in the full back position, but to be fair neither Ward or Fosu-Mensah are overly blessed in that department either. I prefer him at centre half, but have no qualms if he has to fill in when needs must.
Defences make mistakes that often lead to goals being scored but so many people single out players for that sort of thing however minor. I prefer to look at defences as a whole and if we get a decent result i cannot see the point of bringing up slip here or a poor clearance there because they all do it over a season.
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i cannot see the point of bringing up slip here or a poor clearance there because they all do it over a season.
No, you look at general weaknesses and how key they are to the position played. When you get an injury like Dann's that puts him out for half of a season you have to replace, it is just as simple as that. Dann is higher up than 4th CB so that is what you replace or you are playing with fire.
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No, you look at general weaknesses and how key they are to the position played. When you get an injury like Dann's that puts him out for half of a season you have to replace, it is just as simple as that. Dann is higher up than 4th CB so that is what you replace or you are playing with fire.
Spot on back up players are short term fixes injuries like Wickham and Danns need quality replacements. If Tomkins gets injured then its DD and Kelly goodbye Premier league.
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Any news on Martin Kelly's injury ?
Seems we are losing a player with every game.
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Clearly a hamstring, hopefully a pull rather than a year. Good to have Sakho back.
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