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Old 03-01-2018, 07:30 PM
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Is the word racist or rascist? Or is the latter racism or rascism? Or are both forms acceptable? Or am I mixing this up with facism and fascist?

I am all over the place.
Racialism?
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Old 03-01-2018, 07:31 PM
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Would a white person, who was not a famous ex footballer, committing the same offences and abusing a black police officer, receive the same lenient sentance?

Seems a leniant sentance considering the Palace fan that got done for homophobic abuse got a 500 quid and a five year football banning order.

Two different sets of circumstances. But the Palace fan wasnt driving a car two times over the limit which I thought was considered a serious offence in the UK.

I am not sure the judge was right to laud him for his anti-racism work. I know she said it made the situation even sadder, but to me it seemed a cavaet, an excuse, she was using for what she knew was a lenient sentance.
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Old 03-01-2018, 07:33 PM
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What specifically do you find offensive about Sinclair's racism? Like obviously racism is bad that's indisputable, but what, particularly offends you about him calling a police officer a "white ****"?
Kinda suggests even you aren't bothered by a bit of racist name calling.
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Old 03-01-2018, 07:38 PM
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Why is it a stupid question?

He has admitted to making a racist statement, you are angry he made a racist statement, but what specifically about it makes you angry?

I'm just asking you to show your working a bit more

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are you angry because you think he is suggesting that all white people are *****?

are you angry because you think he thinks white people are all racist?

are you angry because you think he thinks white people are inferior to black people?
To be clear, I couldn't care less what TS thinks or says but if he's been drink driving, resisting arrest and pissing in a police car he should pay for it.

Is pissing in the police car a civil matter?
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Old 03-01-2018, 07:42 PM
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I was then talking about wider racism and the response from posters in this thread, calling for kick it out to be disbanded.
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Old 03-01-2018, 07:44 PM
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Donít get me wrong, I believe in everything I argue for. I just donít take it seriously because I know that most people on here are set in their ways and arguing with them is ultimately pointless. I admire KOW, Cockneyrebel etc, I just donít have the patience to deal with people not willing to open their mind outside of their blinkered world view anymore. Itís tiring.
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Old 03-01-2018, 07:50 PM
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I meant, I don't think this incident should be used to discredit kick it out in general. Thinking about it a bit more, you are right that his position is likely untenable.
As far as I am aware, no one on this thread has explicitly tried to discredit KickItOut for the racist behaviour of one of its members and nor should anyone. This ball got rolling when PauLo predicted someone doing that, an example of the victim mentally and utter lack of faith SJW's have in the vast majority of humanity outside of SJWs.

It is illuminating how you and PauLo are finding ways to refute any possibility that Sinclair may have behaved in a racist manner. PauLo's tactic is to ignore repeated invitations to label a black man behaving in this manner in the same terms as he undoubtedly would a white man. Your tactic is more subtle. You seek not to ignore the evidence as to Sinclair's racism but to explain it away with a SJW revisionist brush.

This is why educated people consider SJW advocates so subjective and deceitful in their attempts never to give an inch to facts or true equality when pushing their version of 'justice.'

A questions I'd like to ask you is this; would you seek to prescribe hypothetical ( polite word for 'made up' ) justifications for why Sinclair might have called a policeman a white c*nt if the racial representations were reversed? Or would you have automatically called this hypothetical white footballer a racist and a disgrace to the game for abusing a police officer by calling him a black c*nt?

Only you can ask yourself that. Given the desperate lengths most SJWs go to in order to validate their own moral high-ground bubble, I don't expect you to publicly admit that there's not a cat's chance in hell of you ever applying such excuse-making to white-on-black racism. But I hope you do at least question yourself privately.
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Old 03-01-2018, 07:53 PM
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As far as I am aware, no one on this thread has explicitly tried to discredit KickItOut for the racist behaviour of one of its members and nor should anyone.
Is there membership? I would have thought all right thinking football fans were naturally and rightfully members.
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Proves this Kick racism out campaign is pointless.. any one can walk around with a t shirt on saying this and saying that
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As far as I am aware, no one on this thread has explicitly tried to discredit KickItOut for the racist behaviour of one of its members and nor should anyone. This ball got rolling when PauLo predicted someone doing that, an example of the victim mentally and utter lack of faith SJW's have in the vast majority of humanity outside of SJWs.

It is illuminating how you and PauLo are finding ways to refute any possibility that Sinclair may have behaved in a racist manner. PauLo's tactic is to ignore repeated invitations to label a black man behaving in this manner in the same terms as he undoubtedly would a white man. Your tactic is more subtle. You seek not to ignore the evidence as to Sinclair's racism but to explain it away with a SJW revisionist brush.

This is why educated people consider SJW advocates so subjective and deceitful in their attempts never to give an inch to facts or true equality when pushing their version of 'justice.'

A questions I'd like to ask you is this; would you seek to prescribe hypothetical ( polite word for 'made up' ) justifications for why Sinclair might have called a policeman a white c*nt if the racial representations were reversed? Or would you have automatically called this hypothetical white footballer a racist and a disgrace to the game for abusing a police officer by calling him a black c*nt?

Only you can ask yourself that. Given the desperate lengths most SJWs go to in order to validate their own moral high-ground bubble, I don't expect you to publicly admit that there's not a cat's chance in hell of you ever applying such excuse-making to white-on-black racism. But I hope you do at least question yourself privately.
Black on white racism and white on black racism can't be viewed as equally as bad as each other, at least in the UK context
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Macstar i think, earlier in this thread
That is a person, not people.

If you want to do something useful, find out what Zaha was arguing with Saints fans about last night. If that was racism, get that sent to Kick It Out.

Rather than writing a mumbo jumbo thesis on the BBS.
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Black on white racism and white on black racism can't be viewed as equally as bad as each other, at least in the UK context
Why not?
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This post, maybe I misinterpreted
That is just a poor post. You cant use someone elses lack of coherent thinking to make your babble more valid.
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I don't think you can say Sinclair wasnt being racist but i dont think you should try and "all sides" racism
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Jesus ...You really are kay burley . Racism.is racism.in whatever country you are in .. I hope I'm not paying or have paid for your education in any way shape of form !
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