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Old 31-01-2018, 12:07 PM
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That's not true. Wilf has been as good as Mahrez this season.
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Old 31-01-2018, 12:09 PM
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He can only be as good as the balls which are fed to him. Last night for example, van Aanholt had a lot more space to work with, unlike Wilf who had three players on him. Benteke's one-two straight into a sea of defenders summed up the service Wilf didn't get. Fosu-Mensah, Luka, Benteke and Townsend were all guilty of some awful and wasteful passing last night. As for Cabaye, **** knows what was going through his head, a headless chicken.
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That's not true. Wilf has been as good as Mahrez this season.
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Old 31-01-2018, 12:23 PM
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Other teams increasingly focus their attention on him which, given his style of play, can be quite effective. If he mixed it up a bit, with a few quick passes, one-twos and, as suggested, Roy swapped his wings regularly, opponents might find it harder to “do a job” on h8m.
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Last night at times he had 3 or 4 men on him. We need to find ways to find the other Palace players that would not be marked due to it!!
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Old 31-01-2018, 12:30 PM
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I don’t think fans need to feel over protective about this.

Wilf has definitely had a dip in form in recent matches. To my eyes, his body language has changed, he looks more negative, there is more moaning and arm flapping going on (to refs and teammates) and this is of concern.

It’s of concern because he’s key to the team going forward, and because we all (well, surely the majority of us at least) think so highly of him.

Is it just a dip, or more to it? The longer it continues, the more concern there will be.

No need for other posters to say he’s a class act, our best player etc etc. We know that and would normally agree.
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He can only be as good as the balls which are fed to him. Last night for example, van Aanholt had a lot more space to work with, unlike Wilf who had three players on him. Benteke's one-two straight into a sea of defenders summed up the service Wilf didn't get. Fosu-Mensah, Luka, Benteke and Townsend were all guilty of some awful and wasteful passing last night. As for Cabaye, **** knows what was going through his head, a headless chicken.
The problem is when he has the ball, could pass it off multiple times, instead decides to run into a couple of players and then lose possession, multiple times, that's the fault of him really not the ones passing it to him.
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Old 31-01-2018, 12:50 PM
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Hard to perform every match when teams know he's pretty much our only creative outlet and double/triple mark him. He needs other players to help him out a bit
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Old 31-01-2018, 12:52 PM
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Hard to perform every match when teams know he's pretty much our only creative outlet and double/triple mark him. He needs other players to help him out a bit
Precisely. He's been carrying us much of the season. It's unrealistic not to expect a slight dip in form. Bet he has a blinder against Newcastle.
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Old 31-01-2018, 12:58 PM
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The problem is when he's triple marked he doesn't find the player who is inevitably unmarked. Yesterday at one point he ran up two blind alleys when he had 2 easy passing options. Eventually stabbed a poor pass in the general direction of PVA who ran onto the ball and when the return pass didn't come off because PVA was under pressure Zaha berated him.

You're our best player Wilf but there are 10 other people on the team. You don't have to do it all.
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Absolutely.
All Players have Dips in Form,Strikers,Not Scoring for Several Games.
But,Eventually,Players with Class the Form will Return.
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Roy needs to set him a challenge of embracing being heavily marked. Wilf loves a moan but he needs to love the battle.
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Yup. His goal vs Everton was a perfect example of how him making a quick pass opens up space for everyone, including himself.
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Yes he's been off form for 3/4 games but as said above he is only human.

The good news is that we have got a management team who should be able to deal with it and get him back to form.
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Last night he seemed to be playing in slow motion and I always felt he would eventually lose the ball. Just going through the motions. It's a shame as I felt, with a little bit more out of him he would have ripped the 'unhappy 'ammers' apart.

When on form he is almost unstoppable but it's difficult to reach that level every game.
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He was the worst player on the pitch today, maybe joint with TFM.
2 or 3 players on him at all times, fouling him with written permission from Swarbrick.

This is a great thread to weed out the losers though.
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That's not true. Wilf has been as good as Mahrez this season.
You've copped some flak for this and I get why but you made the right point. Mahrez is just not marked as tightly as Wilf. Opposition teams just don't see a need to do this, because stopping Mahrez won't stop Leicester, but stopping Wilf often stops Palace. Wilf should do more to lose his markers, and if he did that he would be in more space and folk would not be saying how much better Mahrez is. Put 2 or 3 on Mahrez everytime and he would be anonymous 9/10 times, where Wilf is more likely to break out of such a shackle.

It's a paradox, if Wilf did more we'd be looking for a replacement and £70m in our pockets.
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2 or 3 players on him at all times, fouling him with written permission from Swarbrick.

This is a great thread to weed out the losers though.
He was not great, he gave up in the second half. Partly because of the lack of protection. He should have switched wings.

Either that or have been hooked for Chungy!
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He has been poor the last 2 games but you can’t maintain the level of performance that he was putting in for the first half of the season.

One disturbing thing for me last night was where he lost the ball, threw up his arms and didn’t track back. Benteke was tracking back at that time even
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