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Old 01-02-2018, 07:34 PM
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25 man squad / home grown .

I am assuming 25 man squad will be announced tomorrow ? Does anyone know how many home grown players we have to select and what does home grown mean ? Also if a player is out for season do we still have to list him in 25 ?
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ehm, we haven't got enough players to fill the 25 so this is not an issue. All senior players will have to be named because we haven't got enough players to leave anyone out.
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Old 01-02-2018, 07:44 PM
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They can be a maximum of 17 non-home grown players (which means players who spent at least 3 years in a British youth system).
Also only players born before 1 Jan 1996 count.
We have 24 players who met this criteria and there are no problems with numbers of home-grown. Off the top of my head there are: Zaha, Wickham, Townsend, McArthur, Puncheon, Ward, Dann, Tomkins, Hennessey & Kelly.
If we have 25 or fewer players, we have to name injured ones.

(To clarify, if you have fewer than 8 home grown, your squad size is reduced, which has happened at Chelsea and possibly Man City if I remember correctly)

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A maximum of 17 may not be home grown. We named 24 in September (leaving space for an out of contract 'goalie').
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Named in 24 in September, KaiKai loaned to Charlton and Ladapo sold to Southend.

Replaced by Jach and Sorloth, and Rakip under 21 so still leaves 24 and room for an out of contract goalie in need, or an out of contract goal a game striker
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ehm, we haven't got enough players to fill the 25 so this is not an issue. All senior players will have to be named because we haven't got enough players to leave anyone out.
We have 25 who would need to be named i think.

GK: Hennessey, Speroni
Def: Ward, Kelly, Tomkins, Dann, Jach, Sakho, Schlupp, PVA, Souare, Delaney
Mid: Luka, Cabaye, McArthur, Townsend, Rakip, CYL, Mutch, Puncheon
Str: Benteke, Sako, Zaha, Sorloth, Wickham

U21s: TFM, RLC, Reidewald

EDIT: Rakip was only 20 on 1 Jan 2017 so it will be 24 needing to be named.
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To view the link you have to Register or Login on club website from Sept details the rules and who is home grown. PVA counts as homegrown (was at Chelsea) but McArthur doesn't as it seems that it has to be an English or Welsh youth system, not Scottish. Anyway, we have 12 home-grown, so no issues in that regard.

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We have 25 who would need to be named i think.

GK: Hennessey, Speroni
Def: Ward, Kelly, Tomkins, Dann, Jach, Sakho, Schlupp, PVA, Souare, Delaney
Mid: Luka, Cabaye, McArthur, Townsend, Rakip, CYL, Mutch, Puncheon
Str: Benteke, Sako, Zaha, Sorloth, Wickham

U21s: TFM, RLC, Reidewald
Rakip counts as U21 too.
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We have 25 who would need to be named i think.

GK: Hennessey, Speroni
Def: Ward, Kelly, Tomkins, Dann, Jach, Sakho, Schlupp, PVA, Souare, Delaney
Mid: Luka, Cabaye, McArthur, Townsend, Rakip, CYL, Mutch, Puncheon
Str: Benteke, Sako, Zaha, Sorloth, Wickham

U21s: TFM, RLC, Reidewald

EDIT: Rakip was only 20 on 1 Jan 2017 so it will be 24 needing to be named.
You have to name injured players who cannot possibly play in the period?
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You have to name injured players who cannot possibly play in the period?
Yup, anyone who is contracted to you and over 21 has to be named until you have 25 in the squad.
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Looking at that, we need to replace, Delaney, mutch, cyl! Replace those three and get a new keeper and hat is a very good squad, barring injuries etc
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Looking at that, we need to replace, Delaney, mutch, cyl! Replace those three and get a new keeper and hat is a very good squad, barring injuries etc
Mutch still under contract until June 2019.

Also you need to consider what to do with the other players who will be out of contract in June; Speroni, Hennessey, Ward, Cabaye, McArthur and Sako.
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You have to name injured players who cannot possibly play in the period?
We wouldn't have to name say Dann punch ect if we had 25 over age players but we prob don't roys probaly got about15 16 outfield players who he would trust in a prem game without the injured ones and that's being kind to 1 or 2
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We wouldn't have to name say Dann punch ect if we had 25 over age players but we prob don't roys probaly got about15 16 outfield players who he would trust in a prem game without the injured ones and that's being kind to 1 or 2
It would makes sense to pick up an out of contract gk, cb and midfielder as Dann and Punch are out for the season and we dare not lose the option to pick up another gk.
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Are Schlupp and Wickham definetely out for the season?
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Are Schlupp and Wickham definetely out for the season?
Wickham very unlikely. Even when he can resume training, he'll effectively have to do a 'pre-season.
Schlupp is expected to be back in March.
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It would makes sense to pick up an out of contract gk, cb and midfielder as Dann and Punch are out for the season and we dare not lose the option to pick up another gk.
We only have space for 1 out of contract player as you cannot create spaces by not naming eligible players even if unfit or later cancelling contracts outside the window. Similarly a player at another club cannot have contract mutually cancelled outside of transfer window to engineer a move.
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Benteke, Christian
Cabaye, Yohan
Dann, Scott*
Delaney, Damien Finbarr
Hennessey, Wayne Robert*
Jach, Jaroslaw Przemyslaw
Kelly, Martin Ronald*
Lee, Chung Yong
McArthur, James
Milivojevic, Luka
Mutch, Jordon James Edward Sydney*
Puncheon, Jason David Ian*
Sakho, Mamadou
Sako, Bakary
Schlupp, Jeffrey*
Sorloth, Alexander
Souare, Pape N'Diaye
Speroni, Julian Maria
Tomkins, James Oliver Charles*
Townsend, Andros*
Van Aanholt, Patrick John Miguel*
Ward, Joel Edward Philip*
Wickham, Connor Neil Ralph*
Zaha, Dazet Wilfried Armel*

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Berkeley-Agyepong, Jacob Kwame
Boateng, David Nketiah
Brown, Tyler
Bryon, Lewis
Coker, Andre Jordan Coleridge
Daly, James Stanley
Demby, Andrew
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Malcolm, Joshua
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McGregor, Giovanni Donald
Mitchell, Tyrick
O'Dwyer, Oliver
Oddy, Brandon Owen Nicholas
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Ossai, Tariq Eddie
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Phillips, Michael
Rakip, Erdal
Riedwald, Jairo Jocquim
Robertson, Sean Dominic
Serrato, Jordan
Tavares, Nikola
Wan-Bissaka, Aaron
Watson, Courtney Alfie Haynes
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We only have space for 1 out of contract player as you cannot create spaces by not naming eligible players even if unfit or later cancelling contracts outside the window. Similarly a player at another club cannot have contract mutually cancelled outside of transfer window to engineer a move.
Correct. That is why i said 3 players as it would give us too many over 21 players as we would not have to name Punch and Dann. No matter now as too late I assume.
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