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Hennessey 97 18.44%
PVA 289 54.94%
Tomkins 5 0.95%
Kelly 2 0.38%
TFM 2 0.38%
McArthur 96 18.25%
Milivojevic 8 1.52%
Cabaye 6 1.14%
Townsend 0 0%
Benteke 6 1.14%
Zaha 11 2.09%
Sakho 4 0.76%
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TFM seems to be another one of those Ďsee what you want playersí and so opinions vary a lot. I thought he had a fairly good game today overall but he is still very raw and so there are a lot of moments that donít look pretty. His first half cross deserved a goal but Wilf was didnít oblige. What I like is that he has real pace, tackles well and often and isnít pushed around. He was far better on the ball today but needs players to give him a pass..
Interesting! I thought he was absolutely atrocious.
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TFM was absolutely fine 2nd half. 1st half he was pretty crap, but wasn’t exactly the only one. Seems like he’s a bit of an easy target - the BBS always likes to have one.
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It's got to be a huge concern that we have just come out of the transfer window and can bring nothing from the bench apart from injury subs, nothing that can change the game or alter tactics.
We could have played for another hour today and still not scored.
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PVA man of the match. He's been like a different player since returning.

We were dreadful first half and Newcastle should have been 2-0 up.

Newcastle had the poorest goalkeeper who has visited Selhurst in a long time. Darlow was awful.

This is 2 points dropped, especially when you consider that Newcastle had zero threat second half without Kenedy and Diame for long periods of the half.

And WTF were we doing for the goal. Abysmal organisation, no one taking responsibility.

Well done the linesman.

Think we needed a win today as Everton, Tottenham, Man Utd and Chelsea next......we will see.
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Hennessey 8 played well kept us in it 1st half

Van Aanholt 9 MOM
Tomkins 7 much better with Sakho
Kelly 5 at fault for the goal
TFM 6 game of two halves, makes unnecessary mistakes

McArthur 8 excellent 2nd half ran the show
Milivojevic 7 did his bit
Cabaye 5 not at his best, weak link of the midfield ATM
Townsend 6 worked hard, didn't really come off for him

Benteke 4 missed chances, offsides, silly fouls, blocked Wilf's goal bound shot, drives me insane, gets 4 for having his shirt pulled and some neat flicks
Zaha 7 weird game, tore their right back apart but decision making was very poor.

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Agreed. A massively influential player when not forced to play on the wing. Time to go 433 and stick with it. Need the option of RLC back asap.

PVA, McA and Hennessey were all strong. Sakho brought composure to the out ball. Benteke and Wilf are underperforming and were the main reason we didn't score at least three more chances. They need to get going again before it is too late and especially since we brought the usual amount of creativity in the transfer window.

Hopefully had our 'bad run' of throwaway chances and can nick a few wins over the next six. Do that and we are well set to stay up.
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Wayne and PVA the best players as they turned up for the first half and second.

How much better did Wilf and JMac look when they swapped positions. And of course the team much better accordingly.

Luka had me worried with that pen.

Good to have Sahko back.

Surely if Roy rated SÝrloth heíd have thrown him on today.
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Almost everyone was very good. PVA and McArthur especially. Some very good passing by PVA, Cabaye and Luka. Good to see Sakho back on the pitch.

Newcastle had a couple of chances but were well outplayed over the 90 minutes. Itís a peculiar kind of illness that has inflicted Palace this season that we can create so much and still leave the game with 1 point. Itís the sort of thing that happens to the big clubs when they meet a stubborn opponent (such as Palace) and yet with us the symptoms invariably involve the conceding of comic goals follow by ridiculously fluffed chances for us. Benitez said that we area particularly good team in attack (or similar) and it feels like this season could have been very different if it wasnít for some poor decisions last summer.

As for the moaning about the squad...yes itís a bit weak in depth but Kelly, TFM, PVA, Sako, Riedewald, Hennessy and Speroni are all squad players and all contributing. Only Mutch is MIA. Lets see Sorloth et al in action before we judge the quality of the squad.
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Wilf and Kenedy were the two most dangerous players on the pitch. We couldnít get Wilf in space in the first half, Kenedy had acres to work with, so I wouldnít be too harsh on TFM. Thatís quite a big win for Benitez, disappointed Roy took until half time to do anything about it. Breathed a sigh of relief when they took off Kenedy.

Major plus point is the continuing excellent form of PVA. That interception, mazy run and chance laid on a plate for Benteke! Heís the full back Iíve been dreaming of. As others have said, itís great news for Wilf, especially with a run of games coming up where weíre more likely to play 4-5-1.

Also, WH is playing well, pleased to be proven wrong about him.
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Hennessy 8
PVA 9 MOM (14 million now looks a snip!)
Tomkins 6
Kelly 5
TFM 5
McArthur 7
Luka 6
Cabaye 6
Townsend 5
Zaha 7
Benteke 6

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Does Townsend offer anything others than work rate? Not the player I thought he would be....
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Does Townsend offer anything others than work rate? Not the player I thought he would be....
He has a good delivery (see both Bentekes goals)
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I think the club must edit the training sessions they record to show them scoring because our shooting is awful. In the warm up, during the game we just can’t shoot and score for toffee!!
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Zaha problems raise their ugly head again.

NO end product.

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He is. We should be playing ward as soon as he's is fit. Aside from pace he's a much better defender and even, unbelievable a better crosser!!!

Like everything on the bbs we've gone from tfm the unstoppable to he's shit. Truth is he's a young player full of potential and I like him. Truth also is we've 12 games to survive in the premiership and ward is the better player right now. He must play if fit but we don't have to slag off tfm saying that
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Another game we started too slowly!
We seem to always pay the opposition too much respect no matter who we play. They dictate the game, score from a poor defensive error, then we decide to have a go and soon realise that maybe the opposition didnít deserve the respect we showed them!

How about playing with tempo from the first whistle for a change?

That said, I thought we played some great stuff in the second half.
PVA was excellent today as was TF-M. Sakho looks different class.
A superb effort from everyone and maybe we deserved all the points, but we must learn to start with more intensity. We canít keep chasing games and expect to get maximum points.
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