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Old 05-02-2018, 08:19 AM
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Our boys are knackered. We're going to have to get them subbed out at some point. This is a screenshot of the final whistle. Look how many are bending over.

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They are playing once a week. We had a ten day gap for the West Ham game.

If they are knackered - What are they doing between training and matches ?
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Listed below are the benches for all the League games played in 2018. Weakest was probably Burnley. All poor on attacking options.

Southampton
1Speroni
3van Aanholt
14Lee Chung-yong
23Souaré
26Sako
27Delaney
44Riedewald

Burnley
1Speroni
7Cabaye
14Lee Chung-yong
23Souaré
25Kaikai
27Delaney
29Wan-Bissaka

Arsenal
1Speroni
2Ward
10Townsend
14Lee Chung-yong
23Souaré
27Delaney
44Riedewald

West Ham
1Speroni
2Ward
7Cabaye
12Sakho
14Lee Chung-yong
23Souaré
44Riedewald

Newcastle

2Ward
9Sørloth
12Sakho
14Lee Chung-yong
23Souaré
30Henry
44Riedewald
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I'm sure the lack of substitutions is contributing to our injury list. When players are tired they tend to over stretch when combined with muscle fatigue causes numerous strains. I think the physios need to have a word with uncle roy
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Lack of subs is ridiculous. Should have brought the new lad on for the last 15. Agree with the above as well, leaving tired players on instead of making a sub is putting us in silly danger of injuries.
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I suspect it is more about us being in positions where we are going to get points out of games and Roy is ensuring we keep our shape/discipline and don't lose any points we have already.
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Is this (a) Roy's normal style, or (b) a reflection of the lack of strength on the bench?
Pretty obvious to most I'd say, unless of course you're someone who's afraid to be critical of Parish and co.
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Ridiculous to have a new striker and not put him on. He couldn't have done any worse than the useless finishes going on the pitch by our front men.
I would have bought him on with 20 mins to go for benteke
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Not sure why some were expecting a substitution yesterday. We dominated the second half and but for some better finishing and better luck would have seen us win.

So firstly who should have been brought off for not finishing a great chance to score.

Cabaye, McArthur, Zaha, Townsend and/or Benteke?

I think most will probably say Beneteke. But he actually had a very good game and played a big part in our domination, so why upset the apple cart by bringing on an untried and tested player from a league of the standard of Scotland, having just arrived at the club a couple of days ago?

Maybe the lessons for RH to learn from the game is that Zaha should always play out wide and Cabaye should not be taking corners and freekicks. The latter IMO woiuld have had a greater impact than a sub off the bench.
Seriously?

The ball just would not go in yesterday. Most of the guilt edge chances fell to our main striker who as usual missed them all. Why on earth would we not bring our new 6ft 4 striker on to give us another option. Whether he is fit or not beggars belief why he did not come on for the last 15mins or so. How much worse could he have done than the useless lump we had up there. Just dont know what Roys thinking is in this sititation.
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The terrifying fact is that if Wilf & Townsend are unable to play ninety minutes each for the next twelve games for whatever reason, all we have as back up is Lee.
Who is not as bad as people think, we were happy to sign him after all, he suffers from not being the right sort of Palace player, i.e shorter than average. Not had that many duff games (but not had many games with Bolasie, when here, Wilf, AT and Sako in front of him), quite a tidy and energetic player but I guess not a game changer...perhaps Roy can do a number on him.

In the summer we signed a manager with the express strategy of bringing our young players through, not seeing any of that since he left and RH came through, given our poor performance in the transfer market, we ought to be looking at our own academy for players (in the way that Southampton do), if we have none good enough to step up, we need to be looking at who runs the academy
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We were well on top so no subs were needed. AP would have went for it and we would have lost. Sako is a big loss as we now have no cover for AT or Wilf thats where one of the 23s come in.
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Not sure why some were expecting a substitution yesterday. We dominated the second half and but for some better finishing and better luck would have seen us win.

So firstly who should have been brought off for not finishing a great chance to score.

Cabaye, McArthur, Zaha, Townsend and/or Benteke?

I think most will probably say Beneteke. But he actually had a very good game and played a big part in our domination, so why upset the apple cart by bringing on an untried and tested player from a league of the standard of Scotland, having just arrived at the club a couple of days ago?

Maybe the lessons for RH to learn from the game is that Zaha should always play out wide and Cabaye should not be taking corners and freekicks. The latter IMO woiuld have had a greater impact than a sub off the bench.
Benteke didn't have "a very good game"
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It is obvious, blindingly obvious that Roy has zero confidence that anyone on the bench can affect the game.
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We were well on top so no subs were needed. AP would have went for it and we would have lost. Sako is a big loss as we now have no cover for AT or Wilf thats where one of the 23s come in.
Swapping Benteke for another fresh striker off the bench would have been a good option for the last 10-15 minutes, and wouldn't have meant we were going AP style
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It is obvious, blindingly obvious that Roy has zero confidence that anyone on the bench can affect the game.
It is equally, totally blindingly obvious that Roy has total, 100% confidence in the players already on the pitch and sees absolutely no need to make changes.

Both conclusions are equally valid.
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It is equally, totally blindingly obvious that Roy has total, 100% confidence in the players already on the pitch and sees absolutely no need to make changes.

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Totally naive. Have you watched premier league football before?
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It is equally, totally blindingly obvious that Roy has total, 100% confidence in the players already on the pitch and sees absolutely no need to make changes.

Both conclusions are equally valid.
Absolutely.

We have a manager who knows what he's doing.

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Don't fix something that isn't broken.

We've only lost to Arsenal, twice, in months, since our form improved, and we've been better in every second half, and have scored more goals in the last minutes of games than any other team in the league.

As such, our problems don't seem to be with duration of the course, but our slow starts. We seem to get stronger, faster and more dangerous as the game goes on. So why would you substitute players who on the field are getting better as time goes on.
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It is equally, totally blindingly obvious that Roy has total, 100% confidence in the players already on the pitch and sees absolutely no need to make changes.

Both conclusions are equally valid.
He has no choice, they are the best eleven and nobody on the bench to influence the game in any way.

Let down by Parish and co.
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