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How do kids get noticed by Academies?

What's the pathway for a kid to get into a football academy with the aim of becoming a pro?

Just wondering of any experiences out there?

I can see that some clubs run open trials, there are some companies who have 'links' with academies and select a team to play them, some companies have a league and then select the best from the league to play against academies, some scouts turn up at local pitches.

Is it a case that if they're good enough they'll be noticed or should the parent be doing more to ensure they learn and play at the highest level they can?
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Pretty sure you just try to play at the highest level from a young age and hope to get scouted via your team or any of the reasons above.
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Only one I know who been in academy was brought in from bromley think Bobby bowery was there at that time spose recommended to palace
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What's the pathway for a kid to get into a football academy with the aim of becoming a pro?

Just wondering of any experiences out there?

I can see that some clubs run open trials, there are some companies who have 'links' with academies and select a team to play them, some companies have a league and then select the best from the league to play against academies, some scouts turn up at local pitches.

Is it a case that if they're good enough they'll be noticed or should the parent be doing more to ensure they learn and play at the highest level they can?
Open trials seem to be the best in, once a kid is in any academy and he’s doing well bigger clubs will know about it. A lot of youth coaches work for multiple clubs which often gets the word around.
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London and the regions may be different from my experience, but here goes.

Scouts look from the age of 4 or 5 and will often ask to attend training sessions etc. Then about 6, as teams start friendly galas and tournaments, they come to those. They don't often go to individual games unless they have a real recommendation. Then junior teams have invites to tournaments run by either the pro clubs or groups who look to recommend kids. So you need to be a good local club, well coached, making links and organised; there is no reason a kid can't get at least recognised from there. Individually kids can attend directly open days.

Its useful to know what scouts tend to look at. Speed and balance/agility in younger kids, with a bit of something about them, maybe confidence, is the biggest seller. They say size isn't the factor it was, maybe. Yes, basic skills are great, but that can be taught more easily.

Some specialist clubs now exist, they charge for training more, enter leagues even (though some leagues have banned them as non-community based) and claim to have links into pro clubs. My experience is that you are as likely to have some old faces at your normal junior ranks who have as many contacts but I wouldn't rule it out. The thing is, the kid needs to actually enjoy the football; not that many kids seem to stick around those sort of organisations for long.

School representation teams tend to start a bit later and scouts still do have a look there but the concentration really is on younger kids. That really isn't to stop them trying later - kids going onto school and borough/county teams get looked at by semipro teams etc.

I'm a bit jaded by it all (as is my son at the world weary age of 15). He is now after many years far happier playing with his various mates, at a really good level on Saturdays and a crappy level on Sundays, then he was at the academies. But give it a go.
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London and the regions may be different from my experience, but here goes.

Scouts look from the age of 4 or 5 and will often ask to attend training sessions etc. Then about 6, as teams start friendly galas and tournaments, they come to those. They don't often go to individual games unless they have a real recommendation. Then junior teams have invites to tournaments run by either the pro clubs or groups who look to recommend kids. So you need to be a good local club, well coached, making links and organised; there is no reason a kid can't get at least recognised from there. Individually kids can attend directly open days.

Its useful to know what scouts tend to look at. Speed and balance/agility in younger kids, with a bit of something about them, maybe confidence, is the biggest seller. They say size isn't the factor it was, maybe. Yes, basic skills are great, but that can be taught more easily.

Some specialist clubs now exist, they charge for training more, enter leagues even (though some leagues have banned them as non-community based) and claim to have links into pro clubs. My experience is that you are as likely to have some old faces at your normal junior ranks who have as many contacts but I wouldn't rule it out. The thing is, the kid needs to actually enjoy the football; not that many kids seem to stick around those sort of organisations for long.

School representation teams tend to start a bit later and scouts still do have a look there but the concentration really is on younger kids. That really isn't to stop them trying later - kids going onto school and borough/county teams get looked at by semipro teams etc.

I'm a bit jaded by it all (as is my son at the world weary age of 15). He is now after many years far happier playing with his various mates, at a really good level on Saturdays and a crappy level on Sundays, then he was at the academies. But give it a go.

Sadly this happens more often than not now.

The demands and unnecessary over pressurising of children in football is wrong in my eyes. They're far too ruthless in their approach and should have more of a duty of care for even in the case where they're not deemed good enough.
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In this country unless you live in a real back water and the child is at a reasonable standard club he will be watched by scouts probably several times. I would say at younger ages in the South East no stone is left unturned. A lot of private academies are a good standard for kids to play at these days (by private I mean ones you pay for) and boys can train with them while continuing with their Sunday team. They usually have an all abilities session and the best players are invited in to an elite session on another evening. Most are run by pro club academy coaches anyway so you get top level youth coaching but without the pressure of the academy environment.
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London and the regions may be different from my experience, but here goes.

Scouts look from the age of 4 or 5 and will often ask to attend training sessions etc. Then about 6, as teams start friendly galas and tournaments, they come to those. They don't often go to individual games unless they have a real recommendation. Then junior teams have invites to tournaments run by either the pro clubs or groups who look to recommend kids. So you need to be a good local club, well coached, making links and organised; there is no reason a kid can't get at least recognised from there. Individually kids can attend directly open days.

Its useful to know what scouts tend to look at. Speed and balance/agility in younger kids, with a bit of something about them, maybe confidence, is the biggest seller. They say size isn't the factor it was, maybe. Yes, basic skills are great, but that can be taught more easily.

Some specialist clubs now exist, they charge for training more, enter leagues even (though some leagues have banned them as non-community based) and claim to have links into pro clubs. My experience is that you are as likely to have some old faces at your normal junior ranks who have as many contacts but I wouldn't rule it out. The thing is, the kid needs to actually enjoy the football; not that many kids seem to stick around those sort of organisations for long.

School representation teams tend to start a bit later and scouts still do have a look there but the concentration really is on younger kids. That really isn't to stop them trying later - kids going onto school and borough/county teams get looked at by semipro teams etc.

I'm a bit jaded by it all (as is my son at the world weary age of 15). He is now after many years far happier playing with his various mates, at a really good level on Saturdays and a crappy level on Sundays, then he was at the academies. But give it a go.
I just posted something broadly similar on the other thread about how it tends to work.

My view is pretty simple. If you have a child that loves playing football and wants to be as good at it as possible then you should make sure you find them the best coaching possible. They won't turn pro but that way you are at least giving them the chance to become as good at the game as possible. If you have a child that is good but simply wants to do it for fun then let them choose where they are happiest.

I see the difference all the time my son for example is much more happy just playing. He's decent and has been with an academy but ultimately he isn't exceptional and even the idea of playing for one of the more serious grassroots outfits turns him off. However his close mate is the opposite... very similar levels of ability but he is driven and desperate to play for the best grassroots club possible and win matches. Much like not every school suits every kid not every approach to playing football does.
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Sadly this happens more often than not now.

The demands and unnecessary over pressurising of children in football is wrong in my eyes. They're far too ruthless in their approach and should have more of a duty of care for even in the case where they're not deemed good enough.
I've heard this from people. There's a football podcast I listen to and one of the guys on there was saying there was a lot of kids at 7 a side tournaments who were technically really good but they'd lost the joy of playing football in academies because it was more about fitness and organisation and developing into a "winner" rather just having fun and expressing yourself as a footballer.
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I'm a bit jaded by it all (as is my son at the world weary age of 15). He is now after many years far happier playing with his various mates, at a really good level on Saturdays and a crappy level on Sundays, then he was at the academies. But give it a go.
This is where we are at 14. Now playing in the JPL, the league between Academy and grass roots, doing well, not stressed, enjoying it more. Still plays against academies once a 1/4, so still being stretched.
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In this country unless you live in a real back water and the child is at a reasonable standard club he will be watched by scouts probably several times. I would say at younger ages in the South East no stone is left unturned. A lot of private academies are a good standard for kids to play at these days (by private I mean ones you pay for) and boys can train with them while continuing with their Sunday team. They usually have an all abilities session and the best players are invited in to an elite session on another evening. Most are run by pro club academy coaches anyway so you get top level youth coaching but without the pressure of the academy environment.
I think where this falls down slightly is where you have kids that aren't doing much outside of school. I assume grassroots organised football is still a small percentage of kids. It then also becomes a self fulfilling outcome as the ones that have been playing grassroots outside school take up all the places in the school teams. I assume there is still a large group of players whose parents either aren't motivated or can't afford it.
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Some good posts here.

I had a chance at 15 to take the step up, but wasn't taking football that seriously, and had more interest in Palace than playing. Did a Goalkeeping coaching thing with Millwall and then got invited to train with them which I didn't take up.
Got signed Semi Pro in goal at a relative young age (for a keeper), but didn't have the urge to train 2 to 3 times a week, and my availability for games was terrible (mainly based on when Palace weren't playing). And then ended up playing on Sunday's with my mates when I was told not too. Promptly broke my ribs and was out for 2 months.

Had my dad pushed me a bit then I maybe would have played to a semi decent level but personally, I'm glad he didn't (though at 17 he did suggest I have a year off Palace and make a go of it, which I probably should have!).

A couple of my mates used to play with Christian Jolley who did alright for himself at AFC Wimbledon. Even up to 15/16 he wasn't really that good and was on the bench for a pretty poor team. I'm talking Sunday league standard, but he was hellbent on making the most of the his talent and would work harder than anyone else in training and then stay after to work on his heading or shooting. Sure there are better examples.
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A lot of scouts have networks, so they know a lot of people including grassroots football managers, coaches, parents etc. They recommend them a kid to look at, they come down watch them and see if they think they're good enough then offer a trial. That's just one way.
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This is where we are at 14. Now playing in the JPL, the league between Academy and grass roots, doing well, not stressed, enjoying it more. Still plays against academies once a 1/4, so still being stretched.
IOW - is the Qly games against academy sides because they are in the JPL or are they set up separately either by the club or by the league as a representative side?

My son's coach is currently considering entering the JPL for next season, a year prior to when the club usually enters a team.
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Thanks for some great thoughts and advice.



IOW - is the Qly games against academy sides because they are in the JPL or are they set up separately either by the club or by the league as a representative side?

My son's coach is currently considering entering the JPL for next season, a year prior to when the club usually enters a team.
Because they are in the JPL BUT its dependent on the contacts the club has. For example next week we are playing Brighton U14's but my lad is also playing against Southampton with what they call the JPL Rep team. They do a trail once a year that the JPL clubs send their selected players to, they have done it open as well, and then they pick the best of the lads to represent the JPL. Played at Chelsea, Bournemouth, Yeovil. A lot of the Rep team players end up at academies but for us on the IOW its just too darn hard and the amount of pressure, he was in both Aldershot and Crawley, makes it a trial, especially the older they get. We had a lot of requests in the lower tier league teams but the logistics just are impossible since we moved and we aren't going to move for his football. JPL is great no shouty parents, all good standard so no 18-0's, good coaching. Only downside is a crap, nearly impossible to use, website and they seem to be expanding a little too quickly.
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There are also a lot of academies out there that aren't specifically linked to a club, and lots of local clubs have links to the likes of Palace, Millwall, Charlton etc.

Pick up academy, Volenti (run by Bobby Bowry), Kinetic, Junior Elite FC, Phoenix Academy
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IOW - is the Qly games against academy sides because they are in the JPL or are they set up separately either by the club or by the league as a representative side?

My son's coach is currently considering entering the JPL for next season, a year prior to when the club usually enters a team.
JPL isn't a very high standard in London and the south east. Certainly not as strong as some of the Saturday and Sunday leagues in the area.
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There are also a lot of academies out there that aren't specifically linked to a club, and lots of local clubs have links to the likes of Palace, Millwall, Charlton etc.

Pick up academy, Volenti (run by Bobby Bowry), Kinetic, Junior Elite FC, Phoenix Academy
And there are clubs where kids are parked so that clubs can keep an eye on them.
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There are also a lot of academies out there that aren't specifically linked to a club, and lots of local clubs have links to the likes of Palace, Millwall, Charlton etc.

Pick up academy, Volenti (run by Bobby Bowry), Kinetic, Junior Elite FC, Phoenix Academy
I find quite a lot of these clubs are money making schemes however, Sports Focus are another that claim to set up kids to academies etc when in actual fact the bloke who runs it Mr Booth is a wrongun.
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I've heard this from people. There's a football podcast I listen to and one of the guys on there was saying there was a lot of kids at 7 a side tournaments who were technically really good but they'd lost the joy of playing football in academies because it was more about fitness and organisation and developing into a "winner" rather just having fun and expressing yourself as a footballer.
I've seen it first hand and its poor. It's like a meat market, when I worked at Millwall I remember a young boy about 8/9 crying his eyes to his Dad following a release saying he never wanted to play again.

The thing is children peak at all different ages from 7-18. I personally see no harm in pro clubs having a B and C team which creates a more expressive environment and can allow better opportunity for children to develop better.

I find the gap between academy football and grass roots football to big. So many different rules and exceptions where it should all be the same in my eyes. Like for instance parents can't shout at academy football whereas grass roots they can. The coaching requirements are a massive gap between the two and facilities are obviously much, much different.
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