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I find quite a lot of these clubs are money making schemes however, Sports Focus are another that claim to set up kids to academies etc when in actual fact the bloke who runs it Mr Booth is a wrongun.
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Pick up academy, Volenti (run by Bobby Bowry),
he's a really good coach, also has Osborn working for him
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btw: This Mr Booth doesn't happen to be called Stuart does he?



he's a really good coach, also has Osborn working for him
Yes Stuart, I'll keep it off here. But the bloke is a pure out and out wrongun. And a good few people know about him too.
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There are also a lot of academies out there that aren't specifically linked to a club, and lots of local clubs have links to the likes of Palace, Millwall, Charlton etc.

Pick up academy, Volenti (run by Bobby Bowry), Kinetic, Junior Elite FC, Phoenix Academy
Unique is another one. Run by Jamie Waller who was performance director at Palace academy a few years back. Quality of coaching is probably on a par with most professional academies.

Junior Elite are a team in their own right. Heavy links to the Fulham academy (their Chairman is the Fulham guy featured on the BT sports documentary a few weeks back).
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JPL isn't a very high standard in London and the south east. Certainly not as strong as some of the Saturday and Sunday leagues in the area.
It did dip a bit with its expansion, but they are starting to tier now. One of the things that is different is the competitive nature but not the win at all costs mentality. They very much seem to focus on development. These private academies are all very good but without game time it is pointless. We have one in Southampton with great coaches but if you have the and are ok you are in but they never play so don't work as a team and develop. We also have another team that's in the Surrey league that's run by Hilter. Always get results but such a miserable place.
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Not a fan of Bobby Bowery from experience though won’t go into that on here. Lambeth Tigers are a club with genuine Palace links but you have to be pretty good to get game time there. Unique FA is a real good set up.
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What are people paying to play junior football? In my boy's team which is a junior side of an 8th tier non league club in Worcestershire we pay 25 per month for an hour of training on grass and a game on Saturday morning, whether you can play or not. You don't pay for anything on top like kit or match fees. Is that good value?
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What are people paying to play junior football? In my boy's team which is a junior side of an 8th tier non league club in Worcestershire we pay 25 per month for an hour of training on grass and a game on Saturday morning, whether you can play or not. You don't pay for anything on top like kit or match fees. Is that good value?
I have paid varying amounts.

One club was about 40 for kit and about 250 a year.

One club was pay as you go with a 180 fee for kit, league registration etc. then you paid 5 for an hours training and 5 a game.

One club was 35 a month for one hour of futsal and a one and half hour session of football per week. Then it was 3 a match and they competed in two leagues and would have about 4 games a month. The kit was around 30-60 depending how much you wanted to buy and all the league registrations worked out around 150 that was for regents park, market road midweek and the arsenal summer league.

Current club is a charity that works on a pay what you can afford basis. I currently pay 50 a month for an hour of futsal and an hour of football training a week and a match about 3 times a month. The kit was about 40. There will be league registrations but we haven't paid any of those yet. I know some people are paying up to 100 a month and i think some are paying as little as 3 a session.
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In the north east the clubs seem to compete a lot for the same talent so scouts are very prominent at training sessions and matches.I was chatting to a professional scout once about an U15 team and he knew pretty much every players' strengths and weaknesses and knew them all by name.They also try to hoover as many kids up at the ages of 6 and 7 as possible.It's not always great for the kids though and even people I've spoken to who work in academies say the selection process and releasing kids at a young age is far too brutal.
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What are people paying to play junior football? In my boy's team which is a junior side of an 8th tier non league club in Worcestershire we pay 25 per month for an hour of training on grass and a game on Saturday morning, whether you can play or not. You don't pay for anything on top like kit or match fees. Is that good value?
We charge 200 per year, which includes kit, registration fees, insurances, training on 3g from October to March (in local park rest of time), match fees and pitch hire fees.

We are bloody cheap for what we offer as we want to be as inclusive as possible, and every season it pisses me off no end when some dickhead parent asks what they get for their money!

We do also have a very good fundraising manager, and we also try and encourage players to get sponsorships from friends and families at 20 a time. This then funds the extras like rain jackets, training kits etc.
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Does anyone know if the club are at the forefront of knowledge for motor skill developement in children? There are different windows where kids can learn various skills. Recalling from memory i think the most important window for coordination is around 10-12. If you miss it, then it puts real limits on what can be learned later. There are other windows for speed and power. It`s quite a science.
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My son was in his futsal academy for years, I thought he was a fantastic coach and decent bloke, I recommended people to him and his new venture T10, should I not be?

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Futsal seems more and more popular albeit it's still hard to get regular matches. I have actually found my son is a far better futsal player than a footballer. He is tiny but runs and runs and runs. It seems to play to his strengths more. I suspect once he matures a bit and isn't a clear head shorter than everyone else on the pitch football will become a bit easier for him.

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Kids need to have small balls at their feet as much as possible and from as young an age as possible

Encourage skills, manipulation of the ball, dribbling, etc

Futsal is great for this as it eliminates the long ball!

There needs to be more around kids being able to express themselves and free the shackles of winning at all costs
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What are people paying to play junior football? In my boy's team which is a junior side of an 8th tier non league club in Worcestershire we pay 25 per month for an hour of training on grass and a game on Saturday morning, whether you can play or not. You don't pay for anything on top like kit or match fees. Is that good value?

The club I'm involved with charges 70 for the season, flat fee to cover all training and matches. Mind you we're are in rural Lincolnshire where decimalisation is only just starting to catch on.

By the way if anyone involved in an under 11s team down south fancies an end of season mini-tour we'd be happy to help set something up.
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Futsal seems more and more popular albeit it's still hard to get regular matches. I have actually found my son is a far better futsal player than a footballer. He is tiny but runs and runs and runs. It seems to play to his strengths more. I suspect once he matures a bit and isn't a clear head shorter than everyone else on the pitch football will become a bit easier for him.

Futsal is great fun when done well.
I remember 20 plus years ago when there was only one futsal league in the entire country. We used to have to driver 100 odd miles to sodding Pendle (I think it was called Pendle) to play.
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Futsal seems more and more popular albeit it's still hard to get regular matches. I have actually found my son is a far better futsal player than a footballer. He is tiny but runs and runs and runs. It seems to play to his strengths more. I suspect once he matures a bit and isn't a clear head shorter than everyone else on the pitch football will become a bit easier for him.

Futsal is great fun when done well.
Such a laugh, so quick, indoors no mud, size is not a barrier, no kicking thumping, diving or dodgy decisions to worry about, the quick thinking can then be transferred to the pitch and the boys always come off grinning and laughing about who meggsed who and what ridiculous move one got away with. It reminds me of jumpers for goal posts football for the younger ones.
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My team has been invited to a futsal tournament in Swindon which will be the first one we've done. The players selected are the ones who can trap and pass a ball so looking forward to see how they cope.
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My team has been invited to a futsal tournament in Swindon which will be the first one we've done. The players selected are the ones who can trap and pass a ball so looking forward to see how they cope.
If they have no experience they will struggle imo. Have seen it several times. My son's team get thrashed by a team at football then absolutely took them to the cleaners in a futsal match and reverse the scoreline and some.

Deffo worth doing though. Just get some practice in.
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