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Old 25-02-2018, 10:33 PM
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Old 25-02-2018, 10:36 PM
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I think this is it. Perhaps Roy didn't want him but Freedman did. If Roy really wanted him he would have been on the bench today at least. To not get in over Delaney (who I love but is past it) is very odd.
So Roy like Sakho in his own way is damaging us . Itís his job to get the best out of what we have , not to tell the kids and those on the bench that they are not good enough
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Old 25-02-2018, 10:46 PM
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So Roy like Sakho in his own way is damaging us . Itís his job to get the best out of what we have , not to tell the kids and those on the bench that they are not good enough
Alternatively, we could have backed Roy with who he wanted. I'll take his judgement over Freedman and Parish's (in terms of football decisions) any day. That's of course assuming that this is what has happened which may not be the case.
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Old 25-02-2018, 10:47 PM
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Is it just possible that this young lad who does not speak English is taking a while longer than hoped to acclimatise? It is doubtful if he had meaningful time to train with the first feam squad this week and so throwing him into the first team picture in a tough game and not speaking English, in those cicumstances was perhaps considered riskier than the likes of Delaney and Wan-Bissaka.

Only time will tell on the Jach deal but I trust Roy to consider many more factors than just the immediacy of the relegation fight.
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Old 25-02-2018, 10:49 PM
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Old 25-02-2018, 10:58 PM
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Waste of time signing him then wasn't it.
Perhaps. Perhaps not.

This is the problem with the thinking on here. It is all about today without a thought on tomorrow. Let's get x, y or z player over the line as they'll give us this chance of staying. All good unless that players demands are more than you are prepared to pay for the duration of contract the player wants and/or they are not as effective as hoped. This is particularly true when looking to buy players as injury replacements - what about when your first choice is fit? The replacement does not vanish into the background and forfeit his wages. It makes the decisions more complex. As such I can see why players like Jach and Sorloth appeal as they are likely to be on modest wages with modest expectations whilst having youth and talent on their side.

Don't get me wrong, our business in Jan was not good enough but perhaps Jach has not settled as quickly as hoped - this does not mean that he will not make a contribution this season - nor does it mean it is yet a poor signing.
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Old 25-02-2018, 11:00 PM
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But we needed, and were promised, first team ready players.
If the selling club is not actually selling and tells you to **** off what do you do. We tried to sign five players in the window we got three of them the first team ready players were clearly sorloth, guaite and amadou. I'd also point out that hodgson has had both the new boys playing in the reserves getting used to how we want to play and in rakips case having a mini preseason.
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Old 26-02-2018, 05:53 AM
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From memory, Thierry Henry didn’t get any game time in the first six months after joining Arsenal. But I’m not sure I would rely on my memory for it.
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If the selling club is not actually selling and tells you to **** off what do you do. We tried to sign five players in the window we got three of them the first team ready players were clearly sorloth, guaite and amadou. I'd also point out that hodgson has had both the new boys playing in the reserves getting used to how we want to play and in rakips case having a mini preseason.
Sorloth is not first team ready. On the basis of what we saw yesterday. He's big and strong but that's about it
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Sorloth is not first team ready. On the basis of what we saw yesterday. He's big and strong but that's about it
You say that, but in a backs to the wall performance where the opposition kept coming at us in waves he still out performed Benteke by a country mile, when clearly still short of match sharpness.
He's already a viable alternative from our current Premier League ready striker.
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Is it just possible that this young lad who does not speak English is taking a while longer than hoped to acclimatise? It is doubtful if he had meaningful time to train with the first feam squad this week and so throwing him into the first team picture in a tough game and not speaking English, in those cicumstances was perhaps considered riskier than the likes of Delaney and Wan-Bissaka.

Only time will tell on the Jach deal but I trust Roy to consider many more factors than just the immediacy of the relegation fight.
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Sorloth is not first team ready. On the basis of what we saw yesterday. He's big and strong but that's about it
Firstly you put in a reasonable bid not try to take the piss, then you make sure there are alternatives if you can't get the deal done. Newcastle got a keeper in without fuss or bother for instance.
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From memory, Thierry Henry didnít get any game time in the first six months after joining Arsenal. But Iím not sure I would rely on my memory for it.
He probably couldnít speak English
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Firstly you put in a reasonable bid not try to take the piss, then you make sure there are alternatives if you can't get the deal done. Newcastle got a keeper in without fuss or bother for instance.
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Sorloth is not first team ready. On the basis of what we saw yesterday. He's big and strong but that's about it
Exactly.

Meanwhile Brighton buy a striker who has added to Murray's goals.

The three signings we've made have added nothing.
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You say that, but in a backs to the wall performance where the opposition kept coming at us in waves he still out performed Benteke by a country mile, when clearly still short of match sharpness.
He's already a viable alternative from our current Premier League ready striker.
He's not they're both crap
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Is it just possible that this young lad who does not speak English is taking a while longer than hoped to acclimatise? It is doubtful if he had meaningful time to train with the first feam squad this week and so throwing him into the first team picture in a tough game and not speaking English, in those cicumstances was perhaps considered riskier than the likes of Delaney and Wan-Bissaka.

Only time will tell on the Jach deal but I trust Roy to consider many more factors than just the immediacy of the relegation fight.
Meaningful time to train with the first team?

He's been here a month, we didn't sign him on Friday, and I imagine RH was well aware Sackho would be unavailable early in the week
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Got to be better than Delaney. Delaney wouldn't make it in most Championship teams.
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Got to be better than Delaney. Delaney wouldn't make it in most Championship teams.
If things go badly between now and May, he may well be on our bench come August.
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