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View Poll Results: Who is most to blame if we go down?
Parish 249 44.54%
FDB 28 5.01%
The Americans 19 3.40%
Pardew 23 4.11%
The Players 30 5.37%
Benteke 34 6.08%
'Injuries' 160 28.62%
Ron Noades 16 2.86%
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Old 01-03-2018, 11:58 AM
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Who is most to blame if we go down?

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Old 01-03-2018, 12:03 PM
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No other answer than 'injuries' is valid.
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In truth it's been coming for a while. The fact that Stoke, Swansea and Southampton are right down there does show it is not easy to remain a top half club over a lengthy period of time. Clearly, our transfer dealings and managerial appointments haven't helped, but I guess all those three clubs would say the same if they go down too.
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Old 01-03-2018, 12:15 PM
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Keeping Pardew to long and getting DeBoer in so blame has to lie with Parish.
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Failure to ensure we had enough depth in the squad, particularly in the striker and goalkeeping positions will be what costs us

The club is responsible for that, so the majority of fault is SPs IMO

After we have a better squad than Burnley....

Imagine it was a shock to him when the sun didn't come up in the morning
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No other answer than 'injuries' is valid.
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We have a decent squad; we needed a third goalkeeper and another striker, but without the injuries there is no way we'd be anywhere near the bottom under Roy.

I know people love to have somebody to pin the blame on, but it would be unfair to do so here.
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Failure to ensure we had enough depth in the squad, particularly in the striker and goalkeeping positions will be what costs us

The club is responsible for that, so the majority of fault is SPs IMO

After we have a better squad than Burnley....

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Playing Speroni and Hennessey over the course of the season will not be the reason we get relegated.
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Nothing to do with the injuries either lol
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Playing Speroni and Hennessey over the course of the season will not be the reason we get relegated.
Not having a PL standard keeper has cost us points this season already, both have made poor errors, so potentially it could well be enough to relegate us

However combine that with the failure to sign another striker has cost us even more
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Failing to bolster the squad over summer was the catalyst for this, the less said about the shambles of the Jan window when we KNEW we had a lite team the better.

Even with injuries, we should have had a better bench to call on.

I point my finger towards Parish.
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In truth it's been coming for a while. The fact that Stoke, Swansea and Southampton are right down there does show it is not easy to remain a top half club over a lengthy period of time. Clearly, our transfer dealings and managerial appointments haven't helped, but I guess all those three clubs would say the same if they go down too.
Well this really, add to the fact that the bottom 10 teams are only 6 points apart. I mean its not as though we haven't been relegated 4 times from the premier league and 7 times from the top tier, is it !

Are 10 teams fans all worrying about this ? yes they probably are...will it stop the majority going back season after season...no.

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I don't think that you would be able to pinpoint a single decisive factor, if we were to get relegated, as pretty much all of the options listed are valid and will have contributed.

Parish and the Americans will have to take some of the blame, as it was their decision to appoint FdB. FdB then gets some of the blame for the complete farce that was the summer transfer window, again which Parish (and possibly the Americans) also have some responsibility for.

It was deficiencies in the squad which Sam, then FdB, then Roy inherited that meant that we needed to sort so many issues in the squad, and aside from spending 28m or however much on 2 left backs, we still need to do so - and Pardew had the most transfer windows of any recent manager, so again some blame there.

I don't think "the players" collectively can take much of the blame, but there are several of them that have not lived up to expectations this season - Benteke being named in the poll being a key one, and with even 5 more goals by now we'd be close to home and dry. But Townsend hasn't pulled up many trees this season, Sakho has been the sicknote we all hoped he wasn't, and both keepers have proven why we need to improve in this position.

I'm struggling to put any blame on Ron Noades specifically, but do think his mother should get her share if he does!
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Ultimately the responsibility would fall on Steve Parish as he is head of the club but it would be unfair to blame him solely. Many other factors play there part not least this seasons injuries. For the record I still support Steve Parish as chairman and to carry on whatever the division.
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