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Hennessey 0 0%
Patrick van Aanholt 102 17.80%
Tomkins 3 0.52%
Aaron Wan-Bissaka 396 69.11%
Kelly 0 0%
Milivojevic 16 2.79%
Townsend 17 2.97%
Schlupp 7 1.22%
McArthur 13 2.27%
Sorloth 8 1.40%
Benteke 9 1.57%
Riedewald 2 0.35%
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Trying to be positive about a gutsy performances but until we get Zaha Sakho RLC back it is going to be a struggle - 2 points from18 now .
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PVA for me. Was immense today.
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Mcarthur, Townsend, van anholt, Bissaka were all stand outs today. Schlupp was impressive too after first game back from long lay off. Proud of team today, with that spirit and a few players back we will get out of this mess.
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I'm sorry but Sorloth was very good today. Was puffing last 15 mins but understandable.
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Mcarthur, Townsend, van anholt, Bissaka were all stand outs today. Schlupp was impressive too after first game back from long lay off. Proud of team today, with that spirit and a few players back we will get out of this mess.
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Hennessey 6 Three great saves. Spilled the ball. Didn't dominate the area at all well.

Wan Bissaka 8 MOTM.Won more interceptions and made more blocks than any other player. Had a go going forward.
Kelly 7 Fought bravely at the back after coming back from injury.
Tomkins 7 Apparently at fault for the 1st goal. I couldn't tell from the Holmesdale. Was superb in everything I saw though.
Van Aanholt 8 One of his best games. I loved his link up play with Schlupp. Great goal!

Townsend 8 One of his best games. Nice goal. Very direct. Ran at them with pace. Put in some good deliveries.
McArthur 7 Kept the ball well. Was determined and assertive in defence. Unlucky not to score.
Milivojevic 7 Worked hard without the ball and covered a lot of ground.
Schlupp 8 Great assist for goal 2. Linked up well with Van Aanholt. A huge asset. Great to see him back from injury.

Sorloth 7 Held the ball up well. Passed well. Had a few efforts at goal. A promising young player.
Benteke 8 Great assist for goal 1. A world class save denied him a goal. Worked hard. Much better. Cleared an effort off the line.

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Redewald 6 Didn't impact the game. I would have liked to see him man mark Sanchez.

Just got to take the positives.

We lost by one goal to top 4 Spurs and Man U. Late losing goals as well.

We have to get Ward, Sakho, Cabaye, and most of all Zaha back!

Imagine if at 2 nil we bring on Sakho for Kelly. Zaha for Schlupp and Cabaye for McArthur. If nothing else fresh legs would have seen us home and in 13th place.

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Its amazing so many are voting PVA lol

Who stood off Valencia to allow him to get the cross in for the first? Who was it that turned his back numerous times on Lukaku allowing him to get a shot in for their 2nd?!

Yes he was ok going forward but his primary job is a defender! ffs
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PVA in best form since been here - not just the because of the goal.
AWB - great start to his career.
Benteke - well our best defender at opposition corners
Sorloth - OK once he gets going and strong on the ball. But often his first few steps look like his wearing wellies and got stuck in a very muddy field.
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Not happy with that at all.
Mourhino brings on Mata and we are totally overrun in midfield. Roy should have reacted then bringing on Reidewald and taking off one of the strikers. It was practically a rerun of the Spurs game in midfield. It was obvious that we would lose if we just let Mata play.

Roy, performed like a rabbit in car headlights.

Apart from WH the rest were great, although even he had more than enough to do.
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Hennessy 5 poor match

Awb 8
Tomkins 7 - solid but hard to see who was at fault for goals from Holmesdale
Kelly 6 - ok
Pva 8.5 just pipped AWB because of goal

Townsend 7.5 worked his socks off, great goal
Luka 7.5 - worked so hard but tired
Macca 7.5 as above
Schlupp 7.5 worked so hard but tired

Sorloth 5 - first half ok. needs to work on his first touch
Benteke 6 better, made the first goal but so many needless errors and poor decisions, frustrating
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I'm not a person who willingly put's players down, but in tonight's match Wayne Hennessey was bereft of anything resembling a professional goalkeeper and why he wasn't substituted is beyond me, although his performance has made it almost certain that Diego Cavalieri will be between the sticks for the next match.

Everyone else more than put in a performance tonight and the most impressive IMO, were Aaron Wan-Bissaka, PVA and Alexander Sorloth. Right behind them was James Tomkins, but nobody other than WH was a weak link.
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Gutted, should not have lost that. Not going to point fingers because everyone gave everything. Just didnít have enough depth to keep up the fight, by the last quarter everyone was shattered. The difference is we donít have a mata or rashford to bring on to turn the game.
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Not sure whether to be encouraged by that performance or despondent about our luck in conceding another late losing goal.

Given the injury list I thought the tactics were spot on until the United double sub, and we played very well first half against a below par United. The ability to bring on Rashford, Mata and Shaw shows that the odds were heavily stacked in their favour as the game went on, and it was the first goal for Smalling that was our undoing. Their other two goals were a result of us running out of juice, and that's the difference at the moment with so many injuries, together with a lack of luck in general. Maybe Hodgson should have brought Riedewald on earlier, but the quality of our bench is just not good enough to rely on against top quality opposition.

Hennessey - 4 - inspires no confidence at all, and apart from his one on one save early on was a gibbering wreck throughout tonight

Wan-Bissaka - 7.5 - very impressive couple of games from the young man, particularly so tonight. Great positioning, tracking and tackling, being pedantic, one of a few who could have done better on the second goal.

Van Aanholt - 7 - great finish for the goal, and decent performance at the back, many times holding his own in one on ones. Should have done much better for Lukaku's goal however.

Tomkins - 6 - generally good as ever tonight, but uncharacteristic shocking mistake for Smalling's goal which started their comeback.

Kelly - 6.5 - not too bad on his comeback, gave away some silly fouls.

Luka - 6.5 - held things together well against quality opponents in the middle. Will be kicking himself for not closing down Matic, but probably did not have the energy.

McArthur - 6 - ran himself into the ground as usual and nearly got in a position to score in second half.

Schlupp - 6 - quick thinking to assist for PVA goal, and good to see him back which gives us much better balance in the absence of Zaha. Faded as the game went on which is to be expected

Townsend - 7 - great player when he displays this much energy. Fortunate with the deflection, but at least he wants to have a shot. Our most threatening player.

Sorloth - 6 - tries hard and keen to run with the ball, which is good. Big step up for him and obviously needs time, but yet to see whether he has the quality required. A good start in my opinion.

Benteke - 6.5 - better tonight, and got in many good positions without quite having the conviction to score. Great defensively. We need more of this from him.

Riedewald - didn't affect the game

Hodgson - 6.5 - got it right for the most part, just doesn't have the bench currently to change things too much, but could possibly have changed it when Mata and Shaw came on as we were running out of steam fairly obviously at that point.

The ending of these last two games are incredibly demoralising, but hopefully we can take the positives out of tonight's performance against top opposition and move forward. If we can get more players back by the Huddersfield game, and keep the levels of performance going, we have enough to stay up, but we need to turn the tide of results by that game, which is absolutely crucial.
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So proud of the lads. Super performance. Game hinged on their first goal, and then on Hodgson not making the sub sooner, but the truth is we lost because our squad is decimated by injuries and there simply aren't enough options for Roy to call upon. Cannot fault any of our efforts:

Hennessey 4 Flapping all over the place, one or two decent saves

PVA 9 MOM Pretty good defending, oozes class, so intelligent and aggressive with his movement to intercept when they have it and to find space when we have it. That goal epitomised what he is all about: the way he drives at the opposition when he gets time on the ball is a joy to watch. Top drawer finish. A proper technical footballer as well. Love him.

Tomkins 7 Apart from crucial error for their first playing them on he was magnificent

Kelly 7 Aggressive and defended well.

Wan-Bissaka 9 Where has this guy come from? Wow, he can defend; superb in the tackle, strong and not bad in the air. And he is comfortable on the ball. Right back for next season for sure.

Schlupp 8 Won so much ball. Tired, but that's understandable. Gave us the pace we lacked in the last game

McArthur 7 Worked hard, some good moments some average moments.

Milivojevic 7 Gave it everything. Works hard to break it down; lacks pace when the game opens up.

Townsend 8 Thought he was terrific. Put some good balls in, scored (albeit with a deflection) and showed his incredible engine yet again. If you give him support he has the class to produce. Linked well with AWB

Benteke 8 Worked his nuts off, oozes class on the ball. So unlucky with the header - any other keeper and that's a goal. He didn't score but that performance will shut a lot of people up.

Sorloth 6 Huffed and puffed. Strong, but not yet ready for the Premier League. If only he could display the same workrate as Benteke

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but felt he was bright - good passing and breaking up the play.

Hodgson got the starting XI tactics spot on. Shame he can't react to where a game is going. But to be fair to him we have such a thin squad. A very encouraging performance. But we need points. Badly.
Agree with all of this. I gave my MOM to Wan-Bassaka but certainly do not begrudge PVA getting some votes as he was really good when playing as a winger.
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Soul destroying result after such a good performance. Deserved a point at least. This will take a lot to recover from. Now is the time to be bold and drop Benteke who lets us down every week.

Hennessey - 4 - flapped at two simple crosses in the first half and got away with it. Rooted to his line for every corner. He was really poor. Inspires no confidence. How is he still our No 1?!!

Bissaka - 8 - absolutely brilliant performance. We don't need players like TFM when we have gems like this in our own academy. Fantastic today.
PvA - 6 - very good going forward but have to mark him down for bottling so many challenges. He is great going forward but defensively weak. Great finish though.
Tomkins - 7 - solid as ever but people were saying he may have been at fault for the first goal. I couldn't tell.
Kelly - 6 - did well at times and perhaps as well as can be expected but we need Sakho back asap.

Luka - 7 - adore this guy. Incredible workrate.
McArthur - 6 - very effective game. Another top pro.
Townsend - 7 - best game in ages. More of a threat and he actually had shots! Put in some good crosses too. Well played.
Schlupp - 6 - thought he was very effective and we looked weaker when he went off. Good return.

Sorloth - 7 - played well. Like the look of him. A striker who can actually win the ball and hold it up. Looks to be our main hope now up front.
Benteke - 5 - can't score, can't keep simple balls in when we need him to give everything. Lazy, ineffective and generally a shit striker. Why keep playing him and expecting a different outcome? If we are going down let's not do it with this serial under performer up front.

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Riedewald - 6 - seemed to do ok but the shift in tactics didn't suit us. Not his fault though.

Hodgson - 6 - had to make the change at 2-0 and take the useless Benteke off and play one up top. Putting Sorloth out wide was a bad move and let Lingaard have too much space. He has limited options but his use of subs isn't good.
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Wan bissaka is adapting to life in the Prem while sorloth looks like a league one player trying his luck.

Good first half. Very poor second half tactically. Roy got it badly wrong and his reluctance to effect the game cost us.
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We should have brought on fresh legs and continued pressing as it was clear that we were always putting ourselves in trouble when we either sat back or were forced back. The first and second goals were evidence of this.

As good as Tomkins is, the first goal was his fault for playing onside, and the second was a collective miscalculation as everyone closed down the ball before he shot rather than stand and spread themselves out.
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Benteke - 5 - can't score, can't keep simple balls in when we need him to give everything. Lazy, ineffective and generally a shit striker. Why keep playing him and expecting a different outcome? If we are going down let's not do it with this serial under performer up front.

Pure nonsense. His best game at Selhurst in a long time. Very unlucky not to score.
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Pure nonsense. His best game at Selhurst in a long time. Very unlucky not to score.
Agree, and I had had enough of him.
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