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Old 08-03-2018, 08:51 AM
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AWB-------Kelly------------Tomkins--------PVA
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So just one change: TFM to come in for Sorloth to help bolster the centre mid as we are away from home. That team has bags of pace for countering. There's cover for the full backs to bomb on, with both defensive mids able to drop into the defence if needed. McArthur to press, and get close to Benteke. Sorloth to come on so we can go 4-4-2 if we need to chase the game.
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Old 08-03-2018, 08:56 AM
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Think we need three in midfield otherwise we'll get over-run.

-----------------------Cavalieri-------------------

Bissaka--------Kelly-----------Tomkins--------PvA

-----------McArthur-------Luka--------Riedewald

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As an aside, how is it possible for so many players to still be out? I thought Cabaye, Ward and Sakho would at least be back for this one. Beyond frustrating.
Agree with you that we should put 3 in centre mid. But if you're going to play AWB at right back then TFM is better than Riedewald to play centre mid imho.
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Old 08-03-2018, 09:23 AM
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Agree with you that we should put 3 in centre mid. But if you're going to play AWB at right back then TFM is better than Riedewald to play centre mid imho.
We haven't seen TFM in midfield though and Riedewald is very comfortable on the ball - he's technically very good. Harsh to drop TFM but it would be even harsher to drop Bissaka. Anyway, at least we have an option there!
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Old 08-03-2018, 09:33 AM
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With Cabaye out injured leaving us devoid of any real quality in midfield and us now having two attacking wing backs, I would think 3-5-2 might be worth exploring (with Fosu Mensah in the back three). Without the ball we can easily switch to a back 5 with the two wing backs dropping back. Can't see Roy experimenting at this stage of the season now though.
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Old 08-03-2018, 09:41 AM
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Anyone know when the press conference is? Need to know J Mac is ok, really going to struggle without him and Cabaye.
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Old 08-03-2018, 09:45 AM
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After a brave performance against Man Utd, when we Should have got at the very least was 1 point, so can we/should we be talking about making changes to a team that very neary worked? unless there are injuries, then No.
What i will say is, why is Ratik and Jach who by all accounts are rated as good players, not given a chance when we are missing midfielders and defenders, and surely after a fairly long settling in period must be ready. Or at the very least be introduced gradually and be given say 15 minutes initially to see what they are capable off especially with season determining games coming up, if not Now then When? as we saw with Wan Bissaka until tried you will never know.
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Old 08-03-2018, 09:46 AM
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I would probably play TFM instead of AWB but he deserves a massive pat on back and reassuring that he has impressed etc and should look forward to many more games for Palace. He has done ridiculously well but I just think he should be given a rest for Chelsea and we have TFM. Shouldn't hesitate to use him again and can probably plan for a 25 role next year but for the best I think. Mission accomplished.
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Old 08-03-2018, 09:47 AM
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Donít understand any big changes

We were reasonably good with massive injuries against spurs

We were generally very good and well orginised against Utd

Why change other than to accommodate better players who could havs returned? Thatís only TFM and thatís far from a clear choice

The same again with only really room for fine tuning surely
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Donít understand any big changes

We were reasonably good with massive injuries against spurs

We were generally very good and well orginised against Utd

Why change other than to accommodate better players who could havs returned? Thatís only TFM and thatís far from a clear choice

The same again with only really room for fine tuning surely
Because we haven't won a game since 13th Jan?
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Old 08-03-2018, 10:11 AM
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Because we haven't won a game since 13th Jan?
And we don’t have any players to change it with. We’ve basically lost most of our first team. The players have actually played well and not got the results many of the performances deserve. they are well drilled and have largely a good understanding of each other and the system. Changing now would be nothing short of panic, wouldn’t create anymore chances and wouldn’t stop us conceding them.

On chances created vs chances conceded we should have a lot more points. We aren’t playing badly considering the players we have in most games. Tactics basically only effect the chances created vs conceded ratio. Score or not is down to the individual on the day. We can’t really change the individuals and no change now is likely to improve our ratio but will likely worsen it.

Chelsea are a very similar proposition to Utd. Giroud (Lukaku) has the allround and aerial threat. Hazard, Willian, Pedro etc have a edge of area threat. The only viable tactical change is TFM in for Kelly or wanny. I think wan deserves to keep his place. Kelly wasn’t bad and is better in the air Than TFM but vulnerable to hazard etc. TFM would be better vs hazard etc but weaker in the air.
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Anyone know when the press conference is? Need to know J Mac is ok, really going to struggle without him and Cabaye.
Press conference is at 1.30 today. I'm not expecting much though, Roy said in the post-match that he didn't expect anyone else back for this game but I'm guessing he just overlooked Fosu-Mensah
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One option could be to play 3 at the back (TFM,Kelly and Tomkin) with Wan Bissaka and PVA as wing backs.

This would match up Chelsea in terms of formation. Then it would be choice between Sirloth or Schlupp.

I don't expect Hodgson to make any changes but this could be an option at some point during the game.
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Donít understand any big changes

We were reasonably good with massive injuries against spurs

We were generally very good and well orginised against Utd

Why change other than to accommodate better players who could havs returned? Thatís only TFM and thatís far from a clear choice

The same again with only really room for fine tuning surely
Sane again really!! We need to change hennessey for a start he's the one who needs to be dropped asap
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Sane again really!! We need to change hennessey for a start he's the one who needs to be dropped asap
To be fair to Wayne heís been much better recently. That was his worst for a while. Happy to leave that to Roy as heís seen then new guy in training. Wayne has a moment quite often but he isnít as bad as made out here. That said an upgrade would be most welcome
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Really surprised at those advocating experiments and major changes. Roy simply doesn't operate that way. He's not going to suddenly play 3 at the back or play Wan-Bissaka as a right winger or drop Benteke etc.
At most, he'll look to accommodate the pace of TFM into the side to counter the skills of Willian and Hazard.
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Really surprised at those advocating experiments and major changes.
2 points out of 18 from the last 6 games which have included West Ham, Newcastle and Everton. We are in the bottom 3 now and are clearly going to stay there unless we can reverse this slump.
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2 points out of 18 from the last 6 games which have included West Ham, Newcastle and Everton. We are in the bottom 3 now and are clearly going to stay there unless we can reverse this slump.
Reversal of the slump is surely more dependent on getting injured players back rather experiments with team shape or playing kids out of position.
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Or play some of the players we signed to cover those injuries
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