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Old 31-10-2000, 02:35 AM
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Sven is new England manager

BBC reporting that he has signed a contract.
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Old 31-10-2000, 02:38 AM
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yeah i read that on teletxt he is a good manager but iam disipointed he aint english but hopefuly peter taylor will take over from sven but it dont say much about english football
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I think its an excellent appointment by the FA, though I would have prefered the team of Bobby Robson and Peter Taylor, as opposed to Steve McClaren. Sven has calibre, though my concern is if he will be able to identify the up and coming English talent that hasn't been documented greatly - ie. Ashley Cole, and the like.
Good luck to him, and I hope he gets a fair crack of the whip. The last thing we need is for the media to turn on him after a couple of games, which would inevitably launch a train of thought that the fact he is not English means he isn't capable of leading the English national side. I hope he knows what he's letting himself in for.
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English football has reached its lowest point.
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Sorry to possibly upset all you patriotic individuals who feel England should have a native manager.
But I think it would/will be the best thing ever to happen to English football, in the long run. As an old fart I can remember back in ’66 people were saying winning the
World Cup playing the system we did, would be to the detriment of English Football.
I feel that assumption was correct. We learnt nothing of significance over the following years. English coaches and their methods are generally stereotyped and devoid of ideas and imagination. The success of the Dutch and French national sides over recent years (remembering the population of Holland relative to the UK and that football is not the primary sport in France), indicates their rate of improvement over recent decades.
With two of the current top three teams in the Premier having continental mangers shows, I hope, a willingness to learn from others. I would suggest that Eriksson is up with the higher echelon of managers/coaches operating in Europe at this time, and will bring a fresh approach to the position of England’s manager.
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I could not agree with you more Bert.
our footy has been in a time warp ever since 1966.
the fcat is our national is terrible as our clubs...witness the appalling performnace of 'the Best league in the World' in European comps...4 trophies in 10 years and 3 of those were Cup Winners' Cup.
At last the FA have seen the need (as have many of our clubs) of injecting some new blood and ideas into a previously introverted and aniquated system.

All these players and ex-players saying they want english managemnet are burying their heads in the sand. It saddened me how much 'respect' the England players had for kevin keegan. Even I could tell he was tactically inept and hopefully a new face can tell them that they have to be able to use two feet, keep control of the ball for more than 2 seconds and be able to beat a man in order to compete on the world stage.

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English football has reached its lowest point.

Can't agree with this at all. English football is rubbish and this is just what we need.

However, cue all sorts of jokes about Turnips and Swedes from our wonderful tabloid press.

Hope the guy has the stomach for what he's let himself in for.
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English football has reached its lowest point.

Very much so. Which is sad.
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I think the fact that we have got a proven manager with a track record of sucess is brilliant. I was reading Ron Atkinsons column in the Guardian, and he was seriously suggesting that Bryan Robson should be considered ahead of him (once he has been sacked by Middlesbrough presumably), as he is English with a sackfull of caps. This is exactly the same line of logic that got us Kevin Keegan for goodness sake. I can understand the people who say that this is a sad day for English football, but the appointment of a foreign coach is a symptom of our problems, not the cause of it. We have no system of accreditation for coaches, too many managers are appointed because of their playing reputation rather than their managerial nous (Bryan Robson, Kevin Keegan, David Platt) who were all good players but a good player does not make a good manager. The sooner we have a situation like the Italians where coaches have to learn about management and pass a test the better. It is hugely significant that the top five clubs in England are managed by foreigners (Ferguson, Wenger, Houllier, Ranieri and O'Leary). Until we have a decent system in place to teach coaching properly, there will be no English managers who are good enough to manage the international team (or at least very few).
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If Sven isn't going to take over until next June or July, does that mean that were not gonna bother with the world cup.

Or does it mean that Peter Taylor is going to be a stop gap until Sven takes over so we have to start from scratch for the second time in less than a year in terms of new managers, new ideas.

Personally I think the FA should say if you want the job you take it now, not when its convienient.


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Excellent appointment if true and I congratulate the FA on actually having the guts to go for a foreign coach (perhaps our game will now get the long overdue shake-up it needs).

I simply cannot believe the number of dinosaurs crawling out of the woodwork in the press to insist we have to have an English coach ?

WHY and WHO would you suggest anyway ? - Taylor will hopefully prove to be the natural successor in time (and to think he nearly became our coach a year ago - sob) but even he will admit it is too early for him at the moment on a full time basis, although I look forward to seeing his team next month.
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[b]If Sven isn't going to take over until next June or July, does that mean that were not gonna bother with the world cup.

Or does it mean that Peter Taylor is going to be a stop gap until Sven takes over so we have to start from scratch for the second time in less than a year in terms of new managers, new ideas.

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the story goes that he takes over on 1st july next year
meanwhile he will take charge of england for world cup qualifiers on a part time basis, whilst taylor (or whoever) is manager for friendlies.
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It's now official.He's signed a five year contract starting 1 July next year.He will take charge of the three world cup qualifiers between now and then on a part time basis.
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LONDON, Oct 31 (Reuters) - Following is the statement made by FA chief executive Adam Crozier on Tuesday on the appointment of new England coach Sven Goran Eriksson: "We're now delighted to announce that Sven Goran Eriksson, currently of Lazio, has agreed to become the new England coach.
"He has agreed a five-year contract, taking him through to the end of the World Cup in 2006 and giving England the continuity we seek in order to move forward.
"Sven was the unanimous choice of our selection team and is without doubt one of the best coaches in the world with an excellent record of sustained success. At no stage did we approach any other manager.
"Sven was and is our number one choice. His contract will begin on July 1, 2001 and we are hopeful that with the co-operation of Lazio, he will be available to manage the team for the World Cup qualifiers in March and June.
"He is very excited at the prospect of working with Peter Taylor, Steve McClaren and Brian Kidd and buys in 100 percent to our strategy of building for the long-term, so that we have an English manager running the England team in the long-term.
"It marks a new beginning for England and we are certain that everyone will give the new team their full support and best wishes."
LONDON, Oct 31 (Reuters) - Following is the statement made by FA chief executive Adam Crozier on Tuesday on the appointment of new England coach Sven Goran Eriksson: "We're now delighted to announce that Sven Goran Eriksson, currently of Lazio, has agreed to become the new England coach.
"He has agreed a five-year contract, taking him through to the end of the World Cup in 2006 and giving England the continuity we seek in order to move forward.
"Sven was the unanimous choice of our selection team and is without doubt one of the best coaches in the world with an excellent record of sustained success. At no stage did we approach any other manager.
"Sven was and is our number one choice. His contract will begin on July 1, 2001 and we are hopeful that with the co-operation of Lazio, he will be available to manage the team for the World Cup qualifiers in March and June.
"He is very excited at the prospect of working with Peter Taylor, Steve McClaren and Brian Kidd and buys in 100 percent to our strategy of building for the long-term, so that we have an English manager running the England team in the long-term.
"It marks a new beginning for England and we are certain that everyone will give the new team their full support and best wishes."


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F ucking dreadful

English and proud. No foreign coaches.

Come on then, hit me with the "racist, nationalistic, jingoistic, xenophobic" diatribe.
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You don't find Manchester United fans moaning that their manager's not English. You don't find arse fans moaning about their manager either, or indeed Leeds fans. Did Ireland fans moan about Big Jack being foreign? No.

At the end of the day, the coaches nationality is irrelevant (the head of the English FA is Scottish let's not forget, and no-one's moaning about that)

***** like Alan Shearer should stop banging on about Englishness and patriotism like they've got 3 f****** lions tatooed on their chest, and question how patriotic they REALLY are by retiring from the international scene too early and thereby distancing themselves from the countries inevitable World Cup qualification failure.
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I think its a move forward. I'm English and proud. There will be nobody, hopefully, there just on reputation. Anyone who is playing well will have a chance to play for England.

No more Heskey when he can't hit cows ass with a banjo. He didnt deserve to be in the England team last year, although maybe he does at the moment.
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Those who don't want a foreign coach should realise that Erikson was the second choice.
Bobby Robson would have taken the job but his English club prevented him out of petty parochial self interest, so lets not have any of this patriotic nonesense.

English football has reached a nadir because of neandertal English coaches and incompetent and stupid English club and national management. A foreign professional coach is needed at national level just as professional foreign coaches were found necessary at club level.

So come on those who want an English manager
lets see your short list.
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I was reading Ron Atkinsons column in the Guardian, and he was seriously suggesting that Bryan Robson should be considered ahead of him

And what more evidence could anyone need that it was time for a change?!!!

The fact that we regard Ron Atkinson as a worthwhile commentator should be enough to suggest that we've got problems in this country.

And Bryan Robson for manager? What a joke! The money that man has spent and the players he's had in his care, and Boro are still pants!
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