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Old 12-12-2005, 12:51 PM
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As opposed to what ?
As opposed to other singer/songwriters such as Nick Drake, Syd Barrett, Bob Dylan, Phil Ochs, Ian Brown etc etc
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:53 PM
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They've all written and sung boring songs IMHO.
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They've all written and sung boring songs IMHO.
I beg to differ. But I guess it's subjective. There's not a single Chris Rea song I'd call a classic. And he has obviously shit navigation skills. The drive home for Christmas he started in November 2004 has prevented him from releasing anything since.
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They've all written and sung boring songs IMHO.

Especialy Bob Dylan. Just a dippy wailing hippy in my opinion. Never understood why people raved about him.
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Especialy Bob Dylan. Just a dippy wailing hippy in my opinion. Never understood why people raved about him.
Hmm, I can't think of any other artists who do a 20 date tour with a different set every night as he has done in the past.
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Hmm, I can't think of any other artists who do a 20 date tour with a different set every night as he has done in the past.

It might be 'different' in terms of the song titles but it will all sound the same.
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I beg to differ. But I guess it's subjective. There's not a single Chris Rea song I'd call a classic. And he has obviously shit navigation skills. The drive home for Christmas he started in November 2004 has prevented him from releasing anything since.
I think it was the severe, life threatening illness he was suffering from to be honest.
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It might be 'different' in terms of the song titles but it will all sound the same.
You can't knock their content though. Pure poetry. Nobody is suggesting Dylan has a good voice, but as a songwriter very few even come near him.
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I think it was the severe, life threatening illness he was suffering from to be honest.
Cabin fever, being stuck in a car all that time?
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You can't knock their content though. Pure poetry. Nobody is suggesting Dylan has a good voice, but as a songwriter very few even come near him.

Yes I can. He is shite. People seem to like him because its expected of them ie if I am a Soc.lib then I must like Dylan.
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I think it was the severe, life threatening illness he was suffering from to be honest.
I thin k thay was about the time Kev told him he looked rough.
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Yes I can. He is shite. People seem to like him because its expected of them ie if I am a Soc.lib then I must like Dylan.
I know plenty of conservatives who like his songs too, and plenty of lefties who don't like him. He's basically a poet who sings because few people listen to poets.
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Especialy Bob Dylan. Just a dippy wailing hippy in my opinion. Never understood why people raved about him.
Whereas Donny & Marie.......
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Yes I can. He is shite. People seem to like him because its expected of them ie if I am a Soc.lib then I must like Dylan.
He's one of the very few true greats, and he's no soc.lib.

You evidently don't get him not because of him, or because of any cultural trends or tastes, but because you have a hole in your personality where poetry should be.
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Let's compare:

Dylan - Don't think twice, it's alright

It ainít no use to sit and wonder why, babe
It donít matter, anyhow
Aní it ainít no use to sit and wonder why, babe
If you donít know by now
When your rooster crows at the break of dawn
Look out your window and Iíll be gone
Youíre the reason Iím travíliní on
Donít think twice, itís all right

It ainít no use in turniní on your light, babe
That light I never knowed
Aní it ainít no use in turniní on your light, babe
Iím on the dark side of the road
Still I wish there was somethiní you would do or say
To try and make me change my mind and stay
We never did too much talkiní anyway
So donít think twice, itís all right

It ainít no use in calliní out my name, gal
Like you never did before
It ainít no use in calliní out my name, gal
I canít hear you any more
Iím a-thinkiní and a-wondíriní all the way down the road
I once loved a woman, a child Iím told
I give her my heart but she wanted my soul
But donít think twice, itís all right

Iím walkiní down that long, lonesome road, babe
Where Iím bound, I canít tell
But goodbyeís too good a word, gal
So Iíll just say fare thee well
I ainít sayiní you treated me unkind
You could have done better but I donít mind
You just kinda wasted my precious time
But donít think twice, itís all right.

vs Rea - Driving Home for Christmas]

Iím driving home for christmas
Oh, I canít wait to see those faces
Iím driving home for christmas, yea
Well Iím moving down that line
And itís been so long
But I will be there
I sing this song
To pass the time away
Driving in my car
Driving home for christmas

Itís gonna take some time
But Iíll get there
Top to toe in tailbacks
Oh, I got red lights on the run
But soon thereíll be a freeway
Get my feet on holy ground

So I sing for you
Though you canít hear me
When I get trough
And feel you near me
I am driving home for christmas
Driving home for christmas
With a thousand memories

I take look at the driver next to me
Heís just the same
Just the same

Top to toe in tailbacks
Oh, I got red lights on the run
Iím driving home for christmas, yea
Get my feet on holy ground
So I sing for you
Though you canít hear me
When I get trough
And feel you near me
Driving in my car
Driving home for christmas
Driving home for christmas
With a thousand memories
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You evidently don't get him not because of him, or because of any cultural trends or tastes, but because you have a hole in your personality where poetry should be.

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Yes I can. He is shite. People seem to like him because its expected of them ie if I am a Soc.lib then I must like Dylan.
vis a vis neo cons like chris rea? Mat very sad if you define your musical likes via the artises political beliefs....anyway you for one should be supporting MR Zimmerman!
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Subterranean Homesick Blues

Johnny's in the basement
Mixing up the medicine
I'm on the pavement
Thinking about the government
The man in the trench coat
Badge out, laid off
Says he's got a bad cough
Wants to get it paid off
Look out kid
It's somethin' you did
God knows when
But you're doin' it again
You better duck down the alley way
Lookin' for a new friend
The man in the coon-skin cap
In the big pen
Wants eleven dollar bills
You only got ten

Maggie comes fleet foot
Face full of black soot
Talkin' that the heat put
Plants in the bed but
The phone's tapped anyway
Maggie says that many say
They must bust in early May
Orders from the D. A.
Look out kid
Don't matter what you did
Walk on your tip toes
Don't try "No Doz"
Better stay away from those
That carry around a fire hose
Keep a clean nose
Watch the plain clothes
You don't need a weather man
To know which way the wind blows

Get sick, get well
Hang around a ink well
Ring bell, hard to tell
If anything is goin' to sell
Try hard, get barred
Get back, write braille
Get jailed, jump bail
Join the army, if you fail
Look out kid
You're gonna get hit
But users, cheaters
Six-time losers
Hang around the theaters
Girl by the whirlpool
Lookin' for a new fool
Don't follow leaders
Watch the parkin' meters

Ah get born, keep warm
Short pants, romance, learn to dance
Get dressed, get blessed
Try to be a success
Please her, please him, buy gifts
Don't steal, don't lift
Twenty years of schoolin'
And they put you on the day shift
Look out kid
They keep it all hid
Better jump down a manhole
Light yourself a candle
Don't wear sandals
Try to avoid the scandals
Don't wanna be a bum
You better chew gum
The pump don't work
'Cause the vandals took the handles


Vs Tell me Theres a Heaven

The little girl she said to me
What are these things that I can see
Each night when I come home from school
And mama calls me in for tea
Oh every night a baby dies
And every night a mama cries
What makes those men do what they do
To make that person black and blue
Grandpa says their happy now
They sit with God in paradise
With angelsí wings and still somehow
It makes me feel like ice

Tell me thereís a heaven
Tell me that itís true
Tell me thereís a reason
Why Iím seeing what I do
Tell me thereís a heaven
Where all those people go
Tell me theyíre all happy now
Papa tell me that itís so

So do I tell her that itís true
That thereís a place for me and you
Where hungry children smile and say
We wouldnít have no other way
That every painful crack of bones
Is a step along the way
Every wrong done is a game plan
To that great and joyful day

And Iím looking at the father and the son
And Iím looking at the mother and the daughter
And Iím watching them in tears of pain
And Iím watching them suffer
Donít tell that little girl
Tell me
Tell me thereís a heaven
Tell me that itís true
Tell me thereís a reason
Why Iím seeing what I do

Tell me thereís a heaven
Where all those people go
Tell me theyíre all happy now
Papa tell me that itís so
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