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p.stew
26-01-2007, 04:33 PM
I have heard from a reliable source that we are sealing Jamie Vincent and is likely to go through on Monday morning.

I think this will be a great signing giving us the extra required cover we need.

I know it does not sound like a great signing, but signings like these will paved our way to the playoff come May.

Pinkie Brown
26-01-2007, 04:37 PM
Should have never let him go but surely too old now.

PalaceMonkey
26-01-2007, 04:38 PM
31 it would seem.

Spose we need LB cover atm

Baldy
26-01-2007, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by p.stew
I have heard from a reliable source

:hmph:
:S: :S:

Dal
26-01-2007, 04:40 PM
Good player - agree with PB that we should never have let him go.

Basingstoke Eagle
26-01-2007, 04:44 PM
:clown:

p.stew
26-01-2007, 04:49 PM
seriously it is from a reliable source.. wait til monday...!

PJJY
26-01-2007, 04:50 PM
I really don't know who this is :confused:
Info please?

p.stew
26-01-2007, 04:52 PM
He is a good solid player... bad injury when young, but seriously he is the sort of player we need to secure the playoffs!!

PalaceMonkey
26-01-2007, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by PJJY
I really don't know who this is :confused:
Info please?

LB who used to play for us.

PJJY
26-01-2007, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by PalaceMonkey
LB who used to play for us.


Who does he play for now?

nookiebear
26-01-2007, 05:00 PM
I thought Granville was nearly fit again?

Jay_Palace
26-01-2007, 05:00 PM
Aren't Borrowdale and Granville both back in contention? If so then a rather unnecessary signing. New right back on loan is a far greater need.

joe walker
26-01-2007, 05:00 PM
Isn't he at Millwall now?

BW_Palace
26-01-2007, 05:04 PM
Swindon - he played against us in the FA Cup

Baldy
26-01-2007, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by p.stew
but seriously he is the sort of player we need to secure the playoffs!!


WTF ???

Can you let me know where I can get some of the drugs you appear to be on please.

Nelson Muntz
26-01-2007, 05:25 PM
Millwall released him didn't they?

davematt
26-01-2007, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by p.stew
seriously he is the sort of player we need to secure the playoffs!!

Er, what?

cj_saunders
26-01-2007, 05:30 PM
millwall only had him on loan from derby, his contract with derby expired last season and swindon got him on a free,

917L
26-01-2007, 05:32 PM
Was a good player, never given a decent opportunity here, but surely not who we need to be signing now??

Consider the amount of opportunities he was given here compared to Borrowdale, who is a far lesser player.

davematt
26-01-2007, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by 917L
Was a good player, never given a decent opportunity here, but surely not who we need to be signing now??

Agree. A player under the age of 30 would be a start.

EMLEY EAGLE
26-01-2007, 05:36 PM
Think it's a backward step. Didn't do that great a job whilst at Huddersfield. Won't have improved by this age

The Bishop
26-01-2007, 05:41 PM
It says on this link that he'll be out of action for 4 weeks from the 17th January (fractured cheekbone)

http://www.football.co.uk/swindon_town/vincent_blow_for_robins_240216.shtml

Latvian Eagle
26-01-2007, 05:52 PM
Disliked the guy for ages...

I know he was probably p***ed off after a loss, but when I was younger (around 1996/97) he came out of the changing room area where all the little kids (myself included) were standing waiting for autographs, he walked straight through everyone and I heard him mumble to himself "Just walk though, ignore the little s***s." :eek:

Absolute truth!

Typical Palace
26-01-2007, 05:54 PM
This would be a sub Matt Lawrence stop gap signing.

Do we really need a 3rd left back now (4 if you consider the injured Wiggins)?

And if we do why has it taken until now to get this type of signing while struggling against Hull with Matty Lawrence making the best of a bad job v Hull.

Anyway I thought Danny Granny and Bozza were now fit.

In those circumstances I found it hard to believe.

Freddy Kurz
26-01-2007, 06:52 PM
If we are signing Vincent then he will be an improvement on Borrowdale
and is likely to be less injury-prone than Granviille who has been almost
permanently out of action for the past two seasons.

Vincent scores over Borrowdale through his much greater experience with a number of clubs including Bournemouth, Huddersfield, Portsmouth,
Walsall, Derby and Millwall. Agree with those who say we shouldn't
have let him go in the first place. It was another mistake similar to
when we parted with Chris Powell.

Freddy Kurz
26-01-2007, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by Latvian Eagle
Disliked the guy for ages...

I know he was probably p***ed off after a loss, but when I was younger (around 1996/97) he came out of the changing room area where all the little kids (myself included) were standing waiting for autographs, he walked straight through everyone and I heard him mumble to himself "Just walk though, ignore the little s***s." :eek:

Absolute truth!

That was TEN years ago, and most people wise up, change and become
more mature people as they grow up. Didn't you???

Freddy Kurz
26-01-2007, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by nookiebear
I thought Granville was nearly fit again?

With respect, Granville has been "nearly fit" for the past two
seasons......

David Amsalem
26-01-2007, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by Freddy Kurz
If we are signing Vincent then he will be an improvement on Borrowdale
and is likely to be less injury-prone than Granviille who has been almost
permanently out of action for the past two seasons.

Vincent scores over Borrowdale through his much greater experience with a number of clubs including Bournemouth, Huddersfield, Porsmouth,
Walsall, Derby and Millwall. Agree with those who say we shouldn't
have let him go in the first place. It was another mistake similar to
when we parted with Chris Powell.

This is without doubt, one of the most stupidest posts I've seen on the BBS in a long time.

Suggesting Jamie Vincent is an improvement on the England U21 and ever improving Gary Borrowdale is the talk of a mad man.

To then justify this point by saying that because he has played his whole career with top teams such as Bournemouth, Huddersifield, Portsmouth, Walsall, Derby and Millwall, who have all deemed him not not as a regular is unbelievably stupid, crazy and mad.

And then comparing him to the Premiership and even capped England defended Chris Powell... wow.

Oh south london
26-01-2007, 07:12 PM
Doubt we will get him.

Would rather we try to sign a younger player

DANCOO
26-01-2007, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by David Amsalem
This is without doubt, one of the most stupidest posts I've seen on the BBS in a long time.

Suggesting Jamie Vincent is an improvement on the England U21 and ever improving Gary Borrowdale is the talk of a mad man.

To then justify this point by saying that because he has played his whole career with top teams such as Bournemouth, Huddersifield, Portsmouth, Walsall, Derby and Millwall, who have all deemed him not not as a regular is unbelievably stupid, crazy and mad.

And then comparing him to the Premiership and even capped England defended Chris Powell... wow.

Yes, but do you agree with Freddy Kurz or not?

Freddy Kurz
26-01-2007, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by David Amsalem
This is without doubt, one of the most stupidest posts I've seen on the BBS in a long time.

Suggesting Jamie Vincent is an improvement on the England U21 and ever improving Gary Borrowdale is the talk of a mad man.

To then justify this point by saying that because he has played his whole career with top teams such as Bournemouth, Huddersifield, Portsmouth, Walsall, Derby and Millwall, who have all deemed him not not as a regular is unbelievably stupid, crazy and mad.

And then comparing him to the Premiership and even capped England defended Chris Powell... wow.

Unlike you, I haven't become an ardent member of the Gary Borrowdale
admiration society, and if you carefully read post-match assessments
of the player after a number of his appearances in a Palace shirt over
the past couple of seasons, there are a number of Palace fans who
hold a similar opinion to my own.

Everyone on BBS has a right to their own opinions without being abused
by fellow Palace supporters for holding those views, and I take strong
exception to being labelled "stupid", "crazy" and "mad" just because I
happen to make an assessment of a player that differs from yours.
Football is all about opinions, as I've learned over the 62 years I've
been watching the "beautiful game" and my favourite club Crystal Palace.

You may belittle some of the clubs Vincent has played for in his
earlier days, but to the end of last season he had clocked up over
300 games in League and Cup for a number of clubs at various
levels of the Football League which is nearly four times as many
as Borrowdale has played.

The only reason I referred to Chris Powell was simply because he
was another skilful left-back that Palace has allowed to leave the
club. Nowhere did I attempt to make any comparison between
Vincent and Powell, who I am perfectly well aware developed into
a fine Premier League quality player and also represented England.,
although he left Palace to play for lowly Aldershot , Southend Utd,
and Derby (all of whom you no doubt despise) before moving on
to Charlton..... Can you tell me where, precisely, I described the
clubs Vincent played for as TOP clubs? Please don't try to
underestimate the value of players gaining experience at the
lower levels of the Football League, especially over 300+ games.

StevePlus
26-01-2007, 07:44 PM
Am I right in saying that Jamie Vincent played for a lot of the 95/96 season (including the play-off final v Leicester?) and then was rather surprisingly transferred in the close-season?

Young Trolley
26-01-2007, 07:52 PM
If he recovers from injury ok Wiggins should be our LB for next year and beyond. I'm not excited by the prospect of signing another 30 plus journeyman that Taylor seems so fond of.

If he'd be a RB I might have been persuaded but I'm afraid I don't see how he improves our squad. Rather make to with millwall matt at LB for another couple of weeks until Gary or Danny are fit.

James Melody
26-01-2007, 07:52 PM
IS he really only 31?

Young Trolley
26-01-2007, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by StevePlus
Am I right in saying that Jamie Vincent played for a lot of the 95/96 season (including the play-off final v Leicester?) and then was rather surprisingly transferred in the close-season? No you are not right. Dean Gordon was our LB then

917L
26-01-2007, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by James Melody
IS he really only 31?

Yes

http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=8172

917L
26-01-2007, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by Young Trolley
No you are not right. Dean Gordon was our LB then

kenny Brown came in and played the last ten games that season, including the play off final

JAS78
26-01-2007, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Young Trolley
No you are not right. Dean Gordon was our LB then

if only we could have a young Deano back!

LBCUser
26-01-2007, 08:13 PM
This signing would be RIDICULOUS - I don't believe it for a minute.

Why don't we bring Simon Rodger back as well :rolleyes:

Vincent was always average - and now plays at League Two level - why on earth would we sign him when some people were even questioning the wisdom of bringing Capaldi in?

JAS78
26-01-2007, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by 917L
kenny Brown came in and played the last ten games that season, including the play off final

forgot all about him, i remember he scored at derby in a 2-1 defeat, which finished our hopes of top two

Shipp Ahoy!
26-01-2007, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by StevePlus
Am I right in saying that Jamie Vincent played for a lot of the 95/96 season (including the play-off final v Leicester?) and then was rather surprisingly transferred in the close-season?

I've been playing Sensi World of Soccer 95/96 and can't see him anywhere for Palace so maybe not?

DaveTuttles
26-01-2007, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by p.stew
I have heard from a reliable source that we are sealing Jamie Vincent and is likely to go through on Monday morning.

I think this will be a great signing giving us the extra required cover we need.

I know it does not sound like a great signing, but signings like these will paved our way to the playoff come May.



I'll ask my mate who is his brother in law

DaveTuttles
26-01-2007, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by DaveTuttles
I'll ask my mate who is his brother in law


Just asked my mate and he rang Jamies' brother in law and said its bollox.

He is out for 6 weeks with a broken cheekbone too.

End of.

Young Trolley
26-01-2007, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by DaveTuttles
Just asked my mate and he rang Jamies' brother in law and said its bollox.

He is out for 6 weeks with a broken cheekbone too.

End of. :lux: :lux: :lux:

Oh south london
26-01-2007, 09:41 PM
Good news we really do not want him.

Still think PT might get one more player over the line to help us with our Playoff push:lux: :lux:

SE25Eagle
26-01-2007, 09:50 PM
Jamie Vincent, jesus christ, plenty of ambition there then ay?

Why not bring back Phil Barber as well for cover on the left..

Freddy Kurz
26-01-2007, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by Young Trolley
:lux: :lux: :lux:

According to Swindon Town's Official site - Vincent has already resumed
light training......

This still doesn't mean he is coming to Palace (a rumour never confirmed) but does indicate that his injury is not as serious as
was once feared.

racehorse-80s
26-01-2007, 10:25 PM
This club is going backwards :bash: :bash:

The Mighty Kuqi
27-01-2007, 10:53 AM
No more signings for us I doubt, I did have a wierd dream that I screamed at Taylor to sign a quick striker though!

henryhallandhisbasque
27-01-2007, 10:57 AM
Wouldn't it be cheaper to simply recruit from Hackney Marshes?

David Amsalem
28-01-2007, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Freddy Kurz
Unlike you, I haven't become an ardent member of the Gary Borrowdale
admiration society, and if you carefully read post-match assessments
of the player after a number of his appearances in a Palace shirt over
the past couple of seasons, there are a number of Palace fans who
hold a similar opinion to my own.

Everyone on BBS has a right to their own opinions without being abused
by fellow Palace supporters for holding those views, and I take strong
exception to being labelled "stupid", "crazy" and "mad" just because I
happen to make an assessment of a player that differs from yours.
Football is all about opinions, as I've learned over the 62 years I've
been watching the "beautiful game" and my favourite club Crystal Palace.

You may belittle some of the clubs Vincent has played for in his
earlier days, but to the end of last season he had clocked up over
300 games in League and Cup for a number of clubs at various
levels of the Football League which is nearly four times as many
as Borrowdale has played.

The only reason I referred to Chris Powell was simply because he
was another skilful left-back that Palace has allowed to leave the
club. Nowhere did I attempt to make any comparison between
Vincent and Powell, who I am perfectly well aware developed into
a fine Premier League quality player and also represented England.,
although he left Palace to play for lowly Aldershot , Southend Utd,
and Derby (all of whom you no doubt despise) before moving on
to Charlton..... Can you tell me where, precisely, I described the
clubs Vincent played for as TOP clubs? Please don't try to
underestimate the value of players gaining experience at the
lower levels of the Football League, especially over 300+ games.

I was using sarcasm when I mentioned "top clubs" - I don't underestimate the value of players in the lower league. I just believe that if a player has moved between League One and Two clubs throughout his whole career, he is a steady League One and Two player and cannot be deemed to be better then a youngest who has started to show some promise.

Of course Borrowdale may follow the route of Vincent, but right now in this moment of time, I would rather have Borrowdale as he has been in good form in a poor defence and still has the prospect of improving.

Sandowneagle
29-01-2007, 09:59 AM
If you keep buying from the lower leagues there is every chance you'll end up in the ............ lower leagues.

Jamie Vincent, no offence but no thank you.

Freddy Kurz
29-01-2007, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Sandowneagle
If you keep buying from the lower leagues there is every chance you'll end up in the ............ lower leagues.

Jamie Vincent, no offence but no thank you.

I would have taken Vincent on loan if that had been feasible, to tide
us over to the end of Granville's contract, after which we should go
ahead & buy a quality left wing-back, but still don't think that is what
Borrowdale will develop into.

Did the signing of Nigel Martyn from Bristol Rovers, Geoff Thomas from
Crewe, Ian Wright from Greenwich Borough, Andy Gray from Dulwich
Hamlet, Mark Bright from Leicester C Reserves, Gary O'Reilly from
'Spurs Reserves and Alan Pardew from Yeovil Town etc. lead to ........
us ending up in a lower league.....or promotion to Division One
and to our one and only FA Cup Final?????

Doesn't it all depend on the quality of manager and coaching?

stevek
29-01-2007, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by JAS78
forgot all about him, i remember he scored at derby in a 2-1 defeat, which finished our hopes of top two Indeed he did. Also scored at Charlton in the play-off semi and, before that, in the 4-1 win at Millwall.

Shipp Ahoy!
29-01-2007, 01:44 PM
Well it's Monday :hi:

Time to wait and see I guess.

Psychokiller
29-01-2007, 02:00 PM
If he's not good enough for Derby, Millwall or Swindon why is he good enough for us?

KennyB
29-01-2007, 02:05 PM
It's a goalkeeper we need most, preferably Turner.

What is the latest situation with him, now?

Lewes Eagle
29-01-2007, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Freddy Kurz
Did the signing of Nigel Martyn from Bristol Rovers, Geoff Thomas from
Crewe, Ian Wright from Greenwich Borough, Andy Gray from Dulwich
Hamlet, Mark Bright from Leicester C Reserves, Gary O'Reilly from
'Spurs Reserves and Alan Pardew from Yeovil Town etc. lead to ........
us ending up in a lower league.....or promotion to Division One
and to our one and only FA Cup Final?????

Doesn't it all depend on the quality of manager and coaching?

Geoff Thomas and Mark Bright were great signings and Ian Wright was a very rare gem. Nigel Martyn was on the radar for a lot of other clubs, but we were the only club prepared to break into the million pound fee for a keeper.

Yes Coppell did a brilliant job and was/is a great manager, but IMHO most of that team would now struggle in the Championship let alone the premier league. It was only after signing Andy Thorn and Eric Young that we had any kind of organised defence.

GreatGonzo
29-01-2007, 03:59 PM
I think we can pencil this one in as rubbish then, would have been announced by now!

eagle mart
29-01-2007, 04:03 PM
It' looks as though it has been confirmed that p.stew is full of bull.

(I'm saying this in the faint hope that sods law dictates that we'll sign someone to make my comment look silly)

Mackenuff
29-01-2007, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Freddy Kurz
Doesn't it all depend on the quality of manager and coaching?

Therein lies the problem we currently have.

Peter Taylor may well be an excellent coach but his overall managerial skills aren't a patch on Coppell. Coppell is a better tactician, a better man-manager and a better motivator....evidence off all of these attributes are aparent when watching Coppell teams play.

I'm sorry Freddy but if we ever were looking to sign Vincent, it would have been yet another step in the wrong direction. I'm not against signing lower league players but ffs we have the ex-England U21 coach so where on earth are the young vibrant players coming in; talent that Taylor is supposedly so good at nurturing??

I am now sick to death of watching journeyman pros at Palace pick up their fat wages week in week out, devoid of any passion or skill/flair and absolutely and completely unable to empathise and bond with the supporters.

cpfc4ever
29-01-2007, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by p.stew
I have heard from a reliable source that we are sealing Jamie Vincent and is likely to go through on Monday morning.

I think this will be a great signing giving us the extra required cover we need.

I know it does not sound like a great signing, but signings like these will paved our way to the playoff come May.

:rolleyes: :D

ZOHAR
29-01-2007, 04:28 PM
Did anyone really believe we were going to be signing a 31 year old former Palace left back who failed to make it at Yeovil but now plays for League 2 Swindon and is currently out injured with a fractured cheekbone?! I mean FFS!

Leif Andersen
29-01-2007, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Mackenuff


we have the ex-England U21 coach so where on earth are the young vibrant players coming in; talent that Taylor is supposedly so good at nurturing??


Flinders :D :bash: :clown: :sob: :o :moo: :vader: :(

Maloy
29-01-2007, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by p.stew
I have heard from a reliable source that we are sealing Jamie Vincent and is likely to go through on Monday morning.

I think this will be a great signing giving us the extra required cover we need.

I know it does not sound like a great signing, but signings like these will paved our way to the playoff come May.

you're a lying prick :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:

Jukesy
29-01-2007, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by DaveTuttles
Just asked my mate and he rang Jamies' brother in law and said its bollox.

He is out for 6 weeks with a broken cheekbone too.

End of.

Makes me laugh, this was posted two days ago and it's still being discussed.

:rolleyes:

glayzier
29-01-2007, 04:50 PM
Why is he a lying prick??

I was lying prick as well when I said Lawrence was joining from Millwall and had heard it from his family in Burgess Hill.
Sometimes, maybe just sometimes, people do receive info which they are led to think is true and try to share with a load of righteous pricks who are always correct !!!!

Mackenuff
29-01-2007, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Leif Andersen
Flinders :D :bash: :clown: :sob: :o :moo: :vader: :(

So many emotions for one player!

Ok, I'll give you Flinders but his youthful presence is negated by journeyman fogey Lawrence!

Any more??

Rasheed Harkouk
29-01-2007, 05:08 PM
However journey man fogey Lawrence is deserving of a place in the team at the moment... Flinders..errr is not but as we have a lack of keeping options at the moment then i guess i'll have to lump it

Ruskin Old Boy
29-01-2007, 05:09 PM
Had a text from someone at the ground to say that Palace have taken on a new sandwich maker

Bartman
29-01-2007, 05:14 PM
Sauce?

delboy01
29-01-2007, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Ruskin Old Boy
Had a text from someone at the ground to say that Palace have taken on a new sandwich maker

Not prawn I hope!

stupalace
29-01-2007, 05:34 PM
quote:
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Originally posted by p.stew
I have heard from a reliable source that we are sealing Jamie Vincent and is likely to go through on Monday morning.

I think this will be a great signing giving us the extra required cover we need.

I know it does not sound like a great signing, but signings like these will paved our way to the playoff come May.
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to be fair its we are sealing him , so perhaps he has been sealed up in a wall under the holmesdale

Freddy Kurz
29-01-2007, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by Mackenuff
Therein lies the problem we currently have.

Peter Taylor may well be an excellent coach but his overall managerial skills aren't a patch on Coppell. Coppell is a better tactician, a better man-manager and a better motivator....evidence off all of these attributes are aparent when watching Coppell teams play.

I'm sorry Freddy but if we ever were looking to sign Vincent, it would have been yet another step in the wrong direction. I'm not against signing lower league players but ffs we have the ex-England U21 coach so where on earth are the young vibrant players coming in; talent that Taylor is supposedly so good at nurturing??

I am now sick to death of watching journeyman pros at Palace pick up their fat wages week in week out, devoid of any passion or skill/flair and absolutely and completely unable to empathise and bond with the supporters.

You, me and many more Palace fans may be fed up with "watching journeyman pros at Palace pick up their fat wages week in week out"
etc.etc. but since Jordan has only recently borrowed 12million to
buy the Selhurst Park freehold, only to see home gates slump by
2,000+ per game, just who is going to provide the money to buy
the kind of quality players we would all like to see? In the
current transfer window, Taylor has bought yet another
"journeyman", Ifill, and a twenty-one year old from Dart-
ford for 20k. Meanwhile we have two journeymen
full backs, Butterfield & Granville who have been injury-
prone for the past two seasons, and an out-of-form
Borrowdale, recently replaced by another out-of-
position journeyman!

Who has said Taylor is good at "nurturing" young talent?
Certainly not me. He simply cannot be mentioned in
the same breath as Steve Coppell, who really did know
how to develop "rough diamonds" like Wright, Gray,
Thomas, Pardew, Gray, Bright, O'Reilly et al.

Mackenuff
29-01-2007, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by Freddy Kurz

Who has said Taylor is good at "nurturing" young talent?
Certainly not me.

I'm not saying that 'you' said this but my point here is that we were all lead to believe, probably by a combination of press and SJ that Peter Taylor would be using his little 'black book' of contacts from the England job to Palace's advantage. I have yet to see any evidence of this whatsoever and in fact there has actually been more talk of our younger players flying the nest!!

I generally agree with you about the crowds (and I am not currently a season ticket holder but do make an effort when both time and funds allow). I agree wholeheartedly with you about Coppell.

AJ's right boot
29-01-2007, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Ruskin Old Boy
Had a text from someone at the ground to say that Palace have taken on a new sandwich maker

Originally posted by Bartman
Sauce?


PMSL :p
:lux: :lux: :lux: :lux:

Neil the Eagle
29-01-2007, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Maloy
you're a lying prick :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:

Absolutely no need for this sort of abuse.

You are going to get banned permanently if you keep this up.

I suggest an apology may be in order.

orp pisshead1
29-01-2007, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Young Trolley
If he recovers from injury ok Wiggins should be our LB for next year and beyond. I'm not excited by the prospect of signing another 30 plus journeyman that Taylor seems so fond of.

If he'd be a RB I might have been persuaded but I'm afraid I don't see how he improves our squad. Rather make to with millwall matt at LB for another couple of weeks until Gary or Danny are fit.

Excellent post , wales unfortunately have two very promising players vieing(sp) for one position in wiggins n bale rather than one a LB the other RB. I thought GB showed great signs of improvemeant this season and if he's near fitness then vincent is a pointless signing.

bendyjoe
29-01-2007, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by Freddy Kurz
You, me and many more Palace fans may be fed up with "watching journeyman pros at Palace pick up their fat wages week in week out"
etc.etc. but since Jordan has only recently borrowed 12million to
buy the Selhurst Park freehold, only to see home gates slump by
2,000+ per game, just who is going to provide the money to buy
the kind of quality players we would all like to see? In the
current transfer window, Taylor has bought yet another
"journeyman", Ifill, and a twenty-one year old from Dart-
ford for 20k. Meanwhile we have two journeymen
full backs, Butterfield & Granville who have been injury-
prone for the past two seasons, and an out-of-form
Borrowdale, recently replaced by another out-of-
position journeyman!

Who has said Taylor is good at "nurturing" young talent?
Certainly not me. He simply cannot be mentioned in
the same breath as Steve Coppell, who really did know
how to develop "rough diamonds" like Wright, Gray,
Thomas, Pardew, Gray, Bright, O'Reilly et al.


But didn't he just pass the ground on to a property leasing company to get a few quid back? Or have I misuderstood the arrangement?

Sandowneagle
29-01-2007, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Freddy Kurz


Did the signing of Nigel Martyn from Bristol Rovers, Geoff Thomas from
Crewe, Ian Wright from Greenwich Borough, Andy Gray from Dulwich
Hamlet, Mark Bright from Leicester C Reserves, Gary O'Reilly from
'Spurs Reserves and Alan Pardew from Yeovil Town etc. lead to ........
us ending up in a lower league.....or promotion to Division One
and to our one and only FA Cup Final?????

Doesn't it all depend on the quality of manager and coaching?

Or you could say the signing of Thorn from Newcastle, the signing of Thompson from Villa, the signing of Gray and Mark Dennis kept us in the top division. The following season we bought Young from Wimbledon another top division team as well as Hodges from Sheffield Utd and suddenly we're finishing in the top 3.

In answer to the last question, I think it very much depends on the players already in the squad and Vincent adds very little value above those already here.

kolinkins
29-01-2007, 10:08 PM
Top post Sandowneagle

Pikie Punisher
29-01-2007, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by Ruskin Old Boy
Had a text from someone at the ground to say that Palace have taken on a new sandwich maker

Hope he/she can cut it in the Championship, when do they think they'll have it wrapped up? Bet he/she buttered someone up for that post though or spread a nasty rumour about the current sandwich maker or even threatened him or her that if he or she didn't resign they'd be brown bread!

Just a thought.........

Barbara4003
29-01-2007, 10:28 PM
Keep going - you're on a roll ...........

Freddy Kurz
29-01-2007, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by bendyjoe
But didn't he just pass the ground on to a property leasing company to get a few quid back? Or have I misuderstood the arrangement?

But that arrangement was made simply to reduce his loan charges, it
didn't magically relieve him of the capital debt of 12m, which he still
has to repay!

Because of the recent serious fall off in home attendances, SJ will
now be facing something of a liquidity problem, which is one of the
reasons why he is anxious to move on players like Kiraly, Black,
Macken and maybe others.

Freddy Kurz
29-01-2007, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by Sandowneagle
Or you could say the signing of Thorn from Newcastle, the signing of Thompson from Villa, the signing of Gray and Mark Dennis kept us in the top division. The following season we bought Young from Wimbledon another top division team as well as Hodges from Sheffield Utd and suddenly we're finishing in the top 3.

In answer to the last question, I think it very much depends on the players already in the squad and Vincent adds very little value above those already here.

But if you had read my earlier post, you will see that I only ever
suggested bringing in Vincent on loan (as temporary cover for
Granville who is seriously injury-prone) so the issue of valuation
is irrelevant. Since it now appears unlikely that there was
ever any substance in the Vincent rumour, further discussion
on the subject is meaningless.

I'm reasonably satisfied with the job Lawrence is doing at left
back, but would be happier if there was experienced cover in
the event of injury or suspension.

Gooders
30-01-2007, 08:20 AM
2 days to go and no sign of us being able to ship anyone out, and presumably therefore no more incoming transfers?

What happened to these supposed massive bids for our excellent youngsters?

jimos_uk
30-01-2007, 08:25 AM
I suspect that this was just the latest in the Palace Ex-Player Merry-Go-Round!

I genuinely hope that young Rhoys can make an immediate impact - as mentioned by many, he's tipped to make an impression - but, and this is a big but, the patience span of most Palace fans seems infinitely shorter than that of any other club. With the possible exception of Dave, if he doesn't get off to a flyer there will probably be calls for his head!

Since the early 90s it has appeared that there has been a steady stream of "promising youngsters", yet so few actually make it. Perhaps this fact should be factored in when we talk about our youth (Wiggins, Bostock, Moses et al).

FourtyTwo
30-01-2007, 08:29 AM
To be fair RP, I don't think that there's been talk about many of our previous youngsters to the same level that there has been about the three mentioned by name in your post.

Many promising, yes, but from what I've read on here, those three seem to be considered a touch above what's gone before!

jimos_uk
30-01-2007, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by FourtyTwo
To be fair RP, I don't think that there's been talk about many of our previous youngsters to the same level that there has been about the three mentioned by name in your post.

Many promising, yes, but from what I've read on here, those three seem to be considered a touch above what's gone before!

Oli, much as I agree, the progress of Routledge was treated with almost the same level of hysteria!

(I should perhaps have picked Will Antwi and Richard Harris, maybe? ;) .)

FourtyTwo
30-01-2007, 08:37 AM
I don't remember hearing as much about Routledge when he was still a year or so away from first team football though, like Bostock would be now.

Could be wrong about it though, not living in the local area!

jimos_uk
30-01-2007, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by FourtyTwo
I don't remember hearing as much about Routledge when he was still a year or so away from first team football though, like Bostock would be now.

Could be wrong about it though, not living in the local area!

Bloody Northerner ;)

Given that the ended up in the first team at sixteen (I think?), I remember that there was a great deal of hype surrounding him and various soundbites from Venables (spit) tipping him for the top.

BTW, part of me thinks that the knowledge of these youngsters coming through the ranks is as a direct result of places like this website (and people like Arussell writing his match reports on the Echo site!) - it's hard to generate lots of hype without the communication. We're our own worst enemies!

sydnsteve
30-01-2007, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by p.stew
I have heard from a reliable source that we are sealing Jamie Vincent and is likely to go through on Monday morning.

I think this will be a great signing giving us the extra required cover we need.

I know it does not sound like a great signing, but signings like these will paved our way to the playoff come May.

But possibly not so reliable?

T.C.
01-02-2007, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by p.stew
I have heard from a reliable source that we are sealing Jamie Vincent and is likely to go through on Monday morning.

I think this will be a great signing giving us the extra required cover we need.

I know it does not sound like a great signing, but signings like these will paved our way to the playoff come May.

Why do people post such bolx threads?

The Mighty Kuqi
02-02-2007, 05:18 PM
Has he signed yet?