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Benzhiyi
14-02-2002, 06:24 PM
Thought this would be an interesting one, having been pondering this over the newspapers for the last hour. Let's see what we can come up with! Remember there are 23 places in each squad, not 22 as in previous years!!!

Here's mine:

GOALKEEPERS:
1. Nigel Martyn (Leeds)
13. David James (West Ham)
22. David Seaman (Arsenal)

If Seaman can get fit then I hope he goes, but NOT as the starting keeper - I think the other two have done enough these season to consider themselves to be battling for the number one spot.

DEFENDERS:
2. Gary Neville (Man Utd)
3. Wayne Bridge (Southampton)
5. Sol Campbell (Arsenal)
6. Rio Ferdinand (Leeds)
12. Ashley Cole (Arsenal)
14. Martin Keown (Arsenal)
15. Danny Mills (Leeds)
23. Ledley King (Tottenham)

A bit of Spurs bias with the last one, but I think he's a better defender than Southgate (!!!!) and has been on top form all year. I left out Phil Neville because although he can play on both flanks the four fulls backs listed are all better than him. Wayne Bridge looked more solid than Ashley Cole on the left too.

MIDFIELDERS:
4. Steven Gerrard (Liverpool)
7. David Beckham (Man Utd)
8. Paul Scholes (Man Utd)
11. Nick Barmby (Liverpool)
16. Danny Murphy (Liverpool)
17. Darren Anderton (Tottenham)
18. Michael Carrick (West Ham)

I've left out Butt, Lampard, and McManaman - the first two I think are totally overrated and the latter never seems to do it for England. I also think Carrick is a better player than Joe Cole. Anderton has had a superb season and may well usurp Barmby for the left sided role, if Heskey doesn't play there anyway! Jamie Carragher is a better holding player than Butt and can play anywhere in defence too, which is another bonus, so if Murphy misses out I would hope he'll be next in line.

STRIKERS:
9. Emile Heskey (Liverpool)
10. Michael Owen (Liverpool)
19. Robbie Fowler (Leeds)
20. Teddy Sheringham (Tottenham)
21. Darius Vassell (Aston Villa)

Five strikers with some real variation of abilities - no shortage of options here. I think Phillips's chance has been and gone, and the World Cup will be too soon for Michael Ricketts, as last night proved. I also think Darius Vassell has now sounded the death knell for Andy Cole's chances.

Praise/bombard away.... ;)

Skin Up
14-02-2002, 06:41 PM
Keepers: Martyn, James, Kirkland

Defenders: Cambell, Rio, Woodgate, Cole(A), Neville(G), King, Mullins, Bridge

Midfielders: Beckham, Scholes, Bowyer, Dyer, Anderton, Gray, Cole(J)

Forwards: Owen, Fowler, Smith, Jansen, Philips

Benzhiyi
14-02-2002, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Skin Up
Keepers: Martyn, James, Kirkland

Defenders: Cambell, Rio, Woodgate, Cole(A), Neville(G), King, Mullins, Bridge

Midfielders: Beckham, Scholes, Bowyer, Dyer, Anderton, Gray, Cole(J)

Forwards: Owen, Fowler, Smith, Jansen, Philips

:eek: Please tell me that's Michael Gray and not Julian Gray.... ;)

Though I would agree that Jansen deserves at least a look in a friendly!

Skin Up
14-02-2002, 06:48 PM
It is Jules, but on second thoughts better take him out as i`ve relised i`ve forgotton about Gerrald

The Omen
14-02-2002, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Skin Up
Keepers: Martyn, James, Kirkland

Defenders: Cambell, Rio, Woodgate, Cole(A), Neville(G), King, Mullins, Bridge

Midfielders: Beckham, Scholes, Bowyer, Dyer, Anderton, Gray, Cole(J)

Forwards: Owen, Fowler, Smith, Jansen, Philips

You have got to be joking?!?!

Kirkland hasn't played any first team football this year, Mullins is not good enough to be an England player, Bowyer is way off form and not looking very good since his problems, Gray can't even make the Palace first 11, Smith will never make it with his temper and I don't think Jansen is good enough.

LLCOOLSTEVE
14-02-2002, 06:58 PM
1 Martyn
13 James
23 Wright


2 G Neville
5 Campbell
6 Ferdinand
3 Cole
18 Southgate
19 P Neville
20 Keown
21 mills


7 Beckham (c)
11 Scholes
4 Gerrard
8 Barmby
15 Dyer (if fit.... J Cole if not)
16 Murphy
17 Anderton if he stays injury fit, if not a toss up between Butt and Lampard


9 Owen
10 Sheringham
14 Heskey
22 Fowler
12 Andy Cole

Reps AJ
14-02-2002, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Benzhiyi

What would your England World Cup squad be?


err, preferably Argentina's or France's :D

Skin Up
14-02-2002, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by The Omen


You have got to be joking?!?!

Kirkland hasn't played any first team football this year, Mullins is not good enough to be an England player, Bowyer is way off form and not looking very good since his problems, Gray can't even make the Palace first 11, Smith will never make it with his temper and I don't think Jansen is good enough.

The 3rd keeper is unlikely to be used so take Kirkland for the experience

I have faith in Hayden hes just as good as King he just hasn`t had the chance to prove it yet, he won`t let us down in the Premiership next year.

An out of form Bowyer is preferable to an in form Barmby.

Gray yeah fair point but i consider him a future international and like Kirkland would take him for the experience. Though not at Gerralds expenise (see above post, my mistake)

Smith would oly be used as a sub if we need a late goal so he won`t have time to get sent off.

I will have to express a diference of opinion with regards to Jansen, i belive he is 10 times the player Heskey is and would play him from the start alongside Owen

Daniel_Nash
14-02-2002, 07:06 PM
GK, 1. David Seaman, 2. David James, 3. Nigel Martyn.

D, 4. Sol Campbell, 5. Ledley King, 6. Rio Ferdinand, 7. Ashley Cole, 8. Wayne Bridge, 9. Gary Neville and... 10. Dean Richards

M, 11. David Beckham, 12. Steven Gerrard, 13. Darren Anderton, 14. Keiron Dyer, 15. Joe Cole, 16. Paul Scholes, 17. Steve McManaman, 18. Michael Carrick.

S, 19. Michael Owen, 20. Kevin Phillips, 21. Darius Vassell, 22. Teddy Sheringham, 23. Emile Heskey.

LLCOOLSTEVE
14-02-2002, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by Skin Up
Keepers: , Kirkland

Woodgate, Mullins,

Bowyer, Gray

Jansen,

lol erm.........:eek:

Jimbo ?
14-02-2002, 07:22 PM
I thought about jansen - he would need a couple of games against holland..... but he is the next sheringham type and i would have been tempted to get him in the squad

Si121
14-02-2002, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Benzhiyi
Thought this would be an interesting one, having been pondering this over the newspapers for the last hour. Let's see what we can come up with! Remember there are 23 places in each squad, not 22 as in previous years!!!

Here's mine:

GOALKEEPERS:
1. Nigel Martyn (Leeds)
13. David James (West Ham)
22. David Seaman (Arsenal)

If Seaman can get fit then I hope he goes, but NOT as the starting keeper - I think the other two have done enough these season to consider themselves to be battling for the number one spot.

DEFENDERS:
2. Gary Neville (Man Utd)
3. Wayne Bridge (Southampton)
5. Sol Campbell (Arsenal)
6. Rio Ferdinand (Leeds)
12. Ashley Cole (Arsenal)
14. Martin Keown (Arsenal)
15. Danny Mills (Leeds)
23. Ledley King (Tottenham)

A bit of Spurs bias with the last one, but I think he's a better defender than Southgate (!!!!) and has been on top form all year. I left out Phil Neville because although he can play on both flanks the four fulls backs listed are all better than him. Wayne Bridge looked more solid than Ashley Cole on the left too.

MIDFIELDERS:
4. Steven Gerrard (Liverpool)
7. David Beckham (Man Utd)
8. Paul Scholes (Man Utd)
11. Nick Barmby (Liverpool)
16. Danny Murphy (Liverpool)
17. Darren Anderton (Tottenham)
18. Michael Carrick (West Ham)

I've left out Butt, Lampard, and McManaman - the first two I think are totally overrated and the latter never seems to do it for England. I also think Carrick is a better player than Joe Cole. Anderton has had a superb season and may well usurp Barmby for the left sided role, if Heskey doesn't play there anyway! Jamie Carragher is a better holding player than Butt and can play anywhere in defence too, which is another bonus, so if Murphy misses out I would hope he'll be next in line.

STRIKERS:
9. Emile Heskey (Liverpool)
10. Michael Owen (Liverpool)
19. Robbie Fowler (Leeds)
20. Teddy Sheringham (Tottenham)
21. Darius Vassell (Aston Villa)

Five strikers with some real variation of abilities - no shortage of options here. I think Phillips's chance has been and gone, and the World Cup will be too soon for Michael Ricketts, as last night proved. I also think Darius Vassell has now sounded the death knell for Andy Cole's chances.

Praise/bombard away.... ;)

I agree with this squad with the except of Joe Cole in for Michael Carrick. I would also drop Heskey if Shearer is willing to come back. PLLEEASSEEE!!

Reps AJ
14-02-2002, 07:37 PM
1. Seaman (or Wright if Seaman's not fit)
2. James
3. Martyn

4. P Neville
5. G Neville
6. Ashley Cole
7. Bridge
8. Ferdinand
9. Campbell
10. southgate
22. Carragher

11. Beckham
12. Gerrard
13. scholes
14. joe cole
15. Butt
16. Anderton
17. Dyer
23. Sinclair

17. Owen
18. Heskey
19. Vassell
20. Fowler
21. sheringham

I'd have to say that anyone who isn't a regular squad member and wasn't in the most recent squad has pretty much no chance of making Japan - so no Richards, no Jansen etc

But it all depends on injuries...

Si121
14-02-2002, 07:39 PM
Oh yeah, and take out Murphy for Kieron Dyer.

kolinkins
14-02-2002, 09:57 PM
gk: martyen, wright, james

def: ferdinand, campbell, southgate, king, g neville, p neville, cole

mid: beckham, scholes, gerrard, dyer, carrick, butt, sinclair

str: owen, heskey, fowler, sherringham, bent/vassell

Gooders
15-02-2002, 12:30 AM
Heskey is **** on a stick.

Any squad that takes him to Japan and Korea is going to come home empty handed.

Please Vassell keep showing improvement. Someone. Anyone.

pete eagle
15-02-2002, 12:46 AM
Martyn (leeds
James (West ham)
seaman (Arsenal)

Campbell, Ash Cole,Keown (Arsenal)
Ferdinand,Mills (Leeds)
Southgate (Middlesbrough)
Bridge (Southampton)
G neville (Man Utd)

Beckham,Scholes,Butt (Man Utd)
Gerrard (Liverpool)
J Cole (West Ham)
Dyer (If fit, Sinclair if he ain't)
McManaman (Real Madrid)
Anderton/Lampard/Murphy toss-up for final place

Owen,Heskey (Liverpool)
Fowler (leeds)
Sheringham (Tottenham)
Vassell (Villa) (if he keeps up his form, if not then Phillips/Andy Cole/Ricketts for the final place)

I've included Heskey because he is picking up again and could be hitting form just at the right time for the World Cup.

biggus mickus
15-02-2002, 12:56 AM
Most of the squads, are along the same lines. I agree with them.
I still think,(here to be shot down), Shearer can go as a squad player. He would give a bit of bite on the bench. He is fit, he scores goals, and is proven at this level.
I just wish he played for us!!!

GUCCI Eagle
15-02-2002, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by Gooders
Heskey is **** on a stick.

Any squad that takes him to Japan and Korea is going to come home empty handed.

Please Vassell keep showing improvement. Someone. Anyone.

well said

biggus mickus
15-02-2002, 01:19 AM
Heskey or Shearer?

cpfc_connection
15-02-2002, 02:21 AM
biggus mickus: "Heskey or Shearer?"


neither, they are both useless...dont u remember how crap shearer was when playing for england? ok, he may be banging in the goals for newcastle, good luck to him, id love to see them topple moan utd but we dont need him, stick with owen, fowler, vassell, ricketts and sheringham (or jansen just coz he has a left foot which england need, and coz he is ex-cpfc and id love to see him playing in an england shirt on world-wide tv)

pete eagle
15-02-2002, 03:39 AM
Originally posted by biggus mickus
Most of the squads, are along the same lines. I agree with them.
I still think,(here to be shot down), Shearer can go as a squad player. He would give a bit of bite on the bench. He is fit, he scores goals, and is proven at this level.
I just wish he played for us!!!

*bang*:)

Boris the charltonhater
15-02-2002, 02:37 PM
Goalies :
David James
Nigel Matyn
Richard Wright

Defenders:
Ashley Cole
Gareth Southgate
Jonathon Woodgate
Martin Keown
Rio Ferdinand
Sol Campbell
Wayne Bridge

Midfielders
Darren Anderton
David Beckham
Frank Lampard
Kieron Dyer
Paul Scholes
Steve McManaman
Steven Gerrard

Strikers
Emile Heskey
Kevin Phillips.
Michael Owen
Robbie Fowler
Teddy Sheringham

Daddy Long
15-02-2002, 03:07 PM
GK - Martyn, James, Seaman

DF - Ferdinand, Campbell, Southgate, Cole, G Neville, Mills, Bridge, King

MF - Beckham, Gerrard, Dyer, Scholes, Sinclair, Murphy, Bowyer

ST - Owen, Fowler, Heskey, Sheringham, Vassell

Santos
15-02-2002, 04:10 PM
I don't know why anyone has mentioned:

Mullins - No-one who has never played a premiership game before will be going to the world cup - he isn't an international footballer just because he is our best player.

Gray - Whoever mentioned Gray needs to get their head out of the ground. I like a bit of loyalty to palace but that goes a bit far. He is a half decent player in division one. He would n't be able to go to the world cup and skin all of the worlds beat full backs. It seems to me as palace supporters we either slate our players or give our better players so much praise that they think they are better than they are.

Jansen - Is a very good player but won't be going to the world cup this year.

Dean Richards - good player but there are better defenders

Ledly King - good player but won't be ready this year

Ricketts - his first touch isn't good enough to merit a place in the world cup.

Bowyer - suspended for too many games before

Philips - There are better strikers

Shearer - Has always said that he is retired and has never hinted at coming back.

Kirkland - He is injured, not first choice for liverpool and you don't just bring players to the world cup for experience like someone mentioned above.

Si121
15-02-2002, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by cpfc_connection
biggus mickus: "Heskey or Shearer?"


neither, they are both useless...dont u remember how crap shearer was when playing for england? ok, he may be banging in the goals for newcastle, good luck to him, id love to see them topple moan utd but we dont need him, stick with owen, fowler, vassell, ricketts and sheringham (or jansen just coz he has a left foot which england need, and coz he is ex-cpfc and id love to see him playing in an england shirt on world-wide tv)

What are you talking about???? Shearer was quality for England. And 30 goals in 63 games goes to prove my point.

Si121
15-02-2002, 05:37 PM
Santos, I agree with most your comments but I feel Ledley King and Lee Bowyer would be comfortable in the England side. As for Alan Sherer. He has told Sven that if he's short of strikers and needs someone that he'll consider. Unlikely but could yet happen.

Celestial Empire
15-02-2002, 05:40 PM
Skin Up is obviously a Leeds joker - but Bowyer, Woodgate & Smith, is just not funny.

This is the World Cup gents ! You need something surprising & skillful on the bench.
Therefore, whatever the squad, it has to include :
L. King, the fastest defender, and probably best distributer, we have.
J. Cole, destined for greatness, clever passer (short or long), low, low, centre of gravity.
D. Vassall, has been excellent all season. Imagine him coming on to partner Owen for the last 20mins against France or Brazil (they'll never even have heard of him).

Latvian Eagle
15-02-2002, 05:45 PM
Goalkeepers:
1. Martyn
13. Wright
22. James

Defenders:
2. G. Neville
3. As. Cole
5. Campbell
6. R. Ferdinand
12. P. Neville
15. Southgate
21. Bridge

Midfielders:
4. Gerrard
7. Beckham
8. McManaman
11. Barmby
14. Murphy
16. Dyer
17. Carrick/Cole/Carragher
18. Scholes

Forwards:
9. Heskey
10. Owen
19. Fowler
20. Sheringham
23. Vassell

Can someone confirm if it's 22 or 23 players this time around ? I read in the paper after the Holland game that Sven has to pick his 23 man squad after our next two friendlies ?

Si121
15-02-2002, 05:50 PM
D. Vassall, has been excellent all season. Imagine him coming on to partner Owen for the last 20mins against France or Brazil (they'll never even have heard of him).

Except T.Henry, Viera, Wiltord, Pires, Desailly, Petit, Barthez, Blanc, Silvestre. Just a few. :o :p

Latvian Eagle
15-02-2002, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Santos
Kirkland - He is injured, not first choice for liverpool and you don't just bring players to the world cup for experience like someone mentioned above.

This is true! Players maye get taken along to the WC to train with the squad but never actually as proper squad members.

Si121
15-02-2002, 05:55 PM
Nobody is mentioning Seaman as a keeper. He might be getting on a it and I don't think he's great but I still think he's the most reliable keeper we have. We wouldn't have beaten Germany if it wasn't for him.

Cleon
15-02-2002, 05:59 PM
Most people seem to be of similar minds here. In all seriousness, I would definitely want to look at Jansen, as he would definitely give an extra option on the left. However, having seen the England game live on Wednesday, I was very impressed by Vassell, even taking away his goal. He was causing all sorts of problems, mainly with his movement and strength. I also though Heskey caused the Dutch problems for similar reason. The player that disappointed me the most was Gerrard, but you could hardly leave him out.

Goalies :
David James
Nigel Martyn
David Seaman

Defenders:
Ashley Cole
Gareth Southgate
Gary Neville
Martin Keown
Rio Ferdinand
Sol Campbell
Wayne Bridge

Midfielders
Darren Anderton
David Beckham
Joe Cole
Kieron Dyer
Paul Scholes
Steve McMannaman
Steven Gerrard

Strikers
Emile Heskey
Darrius Vassell
Michael Owen
Robbie Fowler
Teddy Sheringham

Waiting in the wings and praying for injuries
Matt Jansen
Frank Lampard
Michael Carrick
Richard Wright
Dean Richards

Si121
15-02-2002, 06:01 PM
Would you not have Ledley King waiting in the wings?

Celestial Empire
15-02-2002, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by Si121


Except T.Henry, Viera, Wiltord, Pires, Desailly, Petit, Barthez, Blanc, Silvestre. Just a few. :o :p

Silvestre & Blanc won't be in the team, it would be fun to see Vassall against Desailly/Petit in the last twenty of a WC. Notice you haven't mentioned any Brazilians (or Argies).
;)

Cleon
15-02-2002, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Si121
Would you not have Ledley King waiting in the wings?

Maybe far enough back, but not ahead of Dean Richards.

Daddy Long
15-02-2002, 06:24 PM
Can't believe people are even considering McManaman. He is SUCH an underachiever for England. I wouldn't even take him ahead of Carrick, Cole, Barmby, Dunn and I haven't even picked them!

Benzhiyi
15-02-2002, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by Latvian Eagle

Can someone confirm if it's 22 or 23 players this time around ? I read in the paper after the Holland game that Sven has to pick his 23 man squad after our next two friendlies ?

Yep 23 mate - as I said in the first post! :D ;) ;) :o

Boris the charltonhater
15-02-2002, 08:22 PM
What's the point of taking players like Vassell and Joe Cole? Neither will play so surely it's better putting them in the under 21 squad where they can actually do something rather than sitting on the bench twiddling their thumbs whilst world class players such as Beckham and Owen play for the first team. If England are sensible they can win the under 21 tournament easily without damaging their world cup chances.

Benzhiyi
15-02-2002, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Boris
What's the point of taking players like Vassell and Joe Cole? Neither will play so surely it's better putting them in the under 21 squad where they can actually do something rather than sitting on the bench twiddling their thumbs whilst world class players such as Beckham and Owen play for the first team. If England are sensible they can win the under 21 tournament easily without damaging their world cup chances.

Did you not watch Vassell on Wednesday night? Did more in that one game than Andy Cole, Kevin Phillips or many other strikers have done for England over a considerable period of time!!!

Si121
15-02-2002, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Celestial Empire


Silvestre & Blanc won't be in the team, it would be fun to see Vassall against Desailly/Petit in the last twenty of a WC. Notice you haven't mentioned any Brazilians (or Argies).
;)

That's cos there isn't many but if you want to get technical...

Argentina

Veron (Man Utd), Arca (Sunderland), Bassedas (Newcastle)

Brazil

Silvinho (Ex. Arsenal)

Supa Ol
15-02-2002, 09:21 PM
Most of these selections still do not include a left-footed midfield player. That position was a very obvious weakness in Euro 2000 when we did not have any natural left-footers for midfield (or left back really). At least now we have Ashley Cole and Wayne Bridge vying for left back ahead of the dreadful Phil Neville, but where is the left winger?

My suggestion is David Dunn. Looks great in the Premiership and for the U21s. Sven should give him a try.

Steve in Phoenix
17-02-2002, 10:50 PM
Taking a young No.3 keeper I think is a good idea.. Kirkland and Wright are hardly novices and can only benefit and are well capable of playing for England. Players need to be interchangeable as well which favors utility types such as Carragher.

So anyway:

Goalies
1.David Seaman
Nigel Martyn
Richard Wright

Fullbacks
2. G.Neville
3. A.Cole
Wayne Bridge
Danny Mills

CentreBacks
4. Sol Campbell
5. Rio Ferdinand
Martin Keown
Ledley King
Gareth Southgate

Midfielders
6. S. Gerrard - understudy N.Butt
7. P. Scholes - understudy K.Dyer or J.Cole - whoever is fittest.
8. D. Beckham - understudy
11. D. Anderton - understudy N.Barmby

Strikers
Michael Owen - understudy by D.Vassell
Emile Heskey - understudy by T. Sheringham

I probably would leave King behind actually and take McManaman as an extra attacking midfield option. I dont think Fowler deserves to go because he does not click with Owen and hasnt proven himself on the top level. Sheringham should go as the most experienced available striker.

17-02-2002, 11:12 PM
GK:-Seaman,Martyn,James

DEF:-Bridge,Neville(p),Neville(g),Ferdinand,Campbell,So uthgate,Egiugo(ugo) (i know its spelt wrong),King

MID:-Beckham,Gerrard,Scholes,Ashley Cole(Left mid),Joe cole, Dyer, Dunn

FOR:-Owen,Fowler,Heskey,Vassell,Di Canio

17-02-2002, 11:15 PM
oh and Robert Kember might be pushing for a place if we play him!:p

Si121
18-02-2002, 04:35 AM
Originally posted by Sven
GK:-Seaman,Martyn,James

DEF:-Bridge,Neville(p),Neville(g),Ferdinand,Campbell,So uthgate,Egiugo(ugo) (i know its spelt wrong),King

MID:-Beckham,Gerrard,Scholes,Ashley Cole(Left mid),Joe cole, Dyer, Dunn

FOR:-Owen,Fowler,Heskey,Vassell,Di Canio

Di Canio would be great. :confused:

Santos
18-02-2002, 04:06 PM
[i]
I dont think Fowler deserves to go because he does not click with Owen and hasnt proven himself on the top level. . [/B]

What!?! - Fowler has one of the best scoring records in the premiership. Last seson the strike partnership that weilded the most goals at Liverpool was when Hesky and Fowler played together. What if Owen gets injured in the first ten minutes of the first game? England will never win the World cup if they just rely on Owen to get the goals.

kolinkins
18-02-2002, 05:05 PM
i would love to take di canio. he has never played for italy, but when will h be eligible?

Santos
18-02-2002, 05:16 PM
Di Canio is eligable to apply for a British passport - if he is successful then he could play immediately.

Gooders
21-02-2002, 12:49 AM
I hope all of you that included Heskey in your squad are watching his latest pathetic performance for Liverpool - he's just missed from about a foot.

******* hell this guy is so **** it's unbelievable.

Palace
21-02-2002, 01:16 AM
David Seaman
Nigel Martyn
David James

Neville
Cole
Bridge
Southgate
Campbell
Ferdinand
Mills

Dyer
Beckham
Scholes
Gerrard
Anderton
Gazza
Cole

Owen
Fowler
Sheringham
Cole
Heskey/Vassell

21-02-2002, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by Santos
Di Canio is eligable to apply for a British passport - if he is successful then he could play immediately. I read somewhere he could qualify after 5yrs of residnce.

Panman268
21-02-2002, 01:45 AM
Looking at all these squads makes me really depressed to see that out of all the names put foward only three are truly world class and could play for teams like France or Argentina. They are Owen, Beckham and possibly Scholes. Who else is there? Heskey? Gary Neville.....don't make me laugh. I think we'll be lucky to get to the quarter finals.

Palace
21-02-2002, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by Panman268
Looking at all these squads makes me really depressed to see that out of all the names put foward only three are truly world class and could play for teams like France or Argentina. They are Owen, Beckham and possibly Scholes. Who else is there? Heskey? Gary Neville.....don't make me laugh. I think we'll be lucky to get to the quarter finals.

Gerrard, Ferdinand?

zonin2000
21-02-2002, 02:56 AM
Originally posted by Si121
Bassedas (Newcastle)


right, if Christian Bassedas goes to the World Cup I'll eat my chocolate hat!

Benzhiyi
19-03-2002, 11:15 PM
Any chance we can get the below thread moved to this Forum? One that will remain topical until the summer methinks!!!

Cheers Dave/ any other mod with a spare few seconds!

http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19100&highlight=Your+England+squad

LLCOOLSTEVE
20-03-2002, 12:17 AM
1 Martyn
13 James
23 Seaman


2 G Neville
5 Campbell
6 Ferdinand
3 Cole
18 Southgate
19 P Neville
20 Keown
21 Mills


7 Beckham (c)
11 Scholes
4 Gerrard
8 Barmby
15 Hargreaves
16 Murphy
17 Anderton if he stays injury free, if not Dyer (if he is fit!)


9 Owen
10 Sheringham
14 Heskey
22 Fowler
12 Andy Cole

Daniel_Nash
20-03-2002, 12:31 AM
1. Chris Woods
13. Peter Shilton
23. Nigel Spink

2 Paul Parker
5 Terry Butcher
6 Terry Fenwick
3 Stuart Pearce
18 Gary Mabbutt
19 Geoff Thomas
20 Tony Adams
21 Martin Keown

7 Paul Gascoigne
11 Chris Waddle
4 Mark Wright
8 John Barnes
15 Trevor Brooking
16 Glenn Hoddle
17 Nigel Clough

9 Gary Lineker
10 Steve Bull
14 David Hirst
22 David Platt
12 Alan Smith

LLCOOLSTEVE
20-03-2002, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by Daniel_Nash
1. Chris Woods
13. Peter Shilton
23. Nigel Spink

2 Paul Parker
5 Terry Butcher
6 Terry Fenwick
3 Stuart Pearce
18 Gary Mabbutt
19 Geoff Thomas
20 Tony Adams
21 Martin Keown

7 Paul Gascoigne
11 Chris Waddle
4 Mark Wright
8 John Barnes
15 Trevor Brooking
16 Glenn Hoddle
17 Nigel Clough

9 Gary Lineker
10 Steve Bull
14 David Hurst
22 David Platt
12 Alan Smith


isnt it spelt David Hirst???! ;)

Daniel_Nash
20-03-2002, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE



isnt it spelt David Hirst???! ;)

Isn't that what i put? :confused: :rolleyes: ;)

Jim Cannons Moustache
20-03-2002, 04:23 AM
Heres my prediction for the day (and I'm prepared to be slated when i'm proved wrong)

Teddy Sheringham will definately not make the squad. -JCM 20/03/2002

Sir.S.C Remembered
21-03-2002, 02:53 AM
1 SEAMAN
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2 Martyn
3 James
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(Keown if FULLY fit)
1 Ashley Cole
2 Sol Campbell
3 Gary Neville (brilliant right back REALLY!)
3 Rio Ferdinand
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4 Dean Richards
5 Ugo Ehiogu (cant spell!)
6 Wayne Bridge
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1 David Beckham CAPTAIN
2 Paul Scholes
3 Steven Gerrard
4 Julian Gray (Really! Best left winger) / Dyer (left wing!) /M Gray
Still Stuck for left wing as Sinclair isn't good enough there
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5 Joe Cole
6 Nicky Butt
7 Owen Hargreaves
8 Jermaine Pennant/Trev Sinclair
9 Lee Hendrie
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1 Michael Owen
2 Michael Fowler
3 Darius Vassell (NOT Cole)
4 Emile Heskey (only physical English forward about)
5 Jermaine Defoe??

its obvious we have a left wing problem unless Dyer is fit and can play there effectively as I believe Sinclair can not nor can Hargreaves really nor J Cole, We could push Ashley Cole up there? Maybe Michael Gray ofcourse I'd love Julian as unrealistic as it is! Also we lack a real decent forward to partner Michael, a consistent player and our only forward with real physical presence is so inconsistent! for me.

I put Pennant and Defoe in there for debate reasons. As for Hendrie well I have only been to a game where he played once and that was England U21's vs Argentina u21's and he was sensational as is Joe Cole we simply must take Cole he really is so talented and can change games so well! No place for Anderton as I feel he doesn't fit England's Style of play. I'd also chose Mullins to go as a centre back if we were to play a 3 centre back system but thats me for you!

Sir.S.C Remembered
21-03-2002, 02:55 AM
**** IT! I'd take Sherringham!

Sir.S.C Remembered
21-03-2002, 02:58 AM
I'd rather take SHEARER than HESKEY though as shearer has physical element and is a much better player

look when u type F C UK without the gaps it **'s it! see:

**** **** **** what about FUKC

a.stew
21-03-2002, 06:38 PM
d.seaman n.matyn d.james - g.nevill p.nevill w.bridge s.campbell a.cole g.southgate r.ferdinand - d.beckham k.dyer p.scholes s.gerrard d.murphy j.cole d.dunn n.butt - d.vassell e.heskey r.fowler t.sheringham m.owen :

GeeTee
21-03-2002, 08:58 PM
GOALKEEPERS:
Nigel Martyn
David James
David Seaman


DEFENDERS:
Gary Neville
Wayne Bridge
Sol Campbell
Rio Ferdinand
Ashley Cole
Ugo Ehiogu
Jamie Carragher
Gareth Southgate


MIDFIELDERS:
Steven Gerrard
David Beckham
Paul Scholes
Kieron Dyer
Danny Murphy
David Dunn
Trevor Sinclair


STRIKERS:
Emile Heskey
Michael Owen
Robbie Fowler
Teddy Sheringham
Darius Vassell

Standby- Martin Keown, Joe Cole, Owen Hargreaves, Nicky Butt, Alan Smith

brighton_eagle
21-03-2002, 09:06 PM
ashley cole as a left winger....he's great going forward, suspect defending but as a winger he wouldn't/shouldn't be the last line of defence.

could just give us the balance we need.

why oh why didn't howard wilkinson play giggs when he had the chance for the u21s?>?