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desborough-john
26-11-2009, 07:11 PM
to Sheffield Wednesday on loan.

chris888
26-11-2009, 07:22 PM
maybe should of come back to us

chris888
26-11-2009, 07:23 PM
should of come back to us

spotkick
26-11-2009, 11:41 PM
Not really progressing is he?

KingsleY
27-11-2009, 12:05 AM
Not really progressing is he?
I don't believe he left specifically to progress, he left because we accepted a good offer for him

pedro
27-11-2009, 08:59 AM
should of come back to us
God know things are desperate enough and who the hell would you drop to fit him in, everyone in the midfield is a country mile ahead of him but I suppose some Soares worshippers think Ambrose should make way because apart from his goals he doesn't contribute much else and certainly doesn't run around the pitch like Soares can. :rolleyes:

sydnsteve
27-11-2009, 10:25 AM
Pedro, you do have to remember that TS is an 'athlete' and has 'potential'. The fact that he is a mediocre player seems not to count with his fans.

Icy
27-11-2009, 10:43 AM
He's had "potential" for years. Never progressed though. Not good enough for our starting 11 and i'd rather see the kids on the bench. Still good luck for him at Wed's.

Typical Palace
27-11-2009, 05:01 PM
I'd have him in N'Diaye's role anyday. Or Ertl. How anyone can say he's not as good as those two is beyond me.

CarlosTheFinger
27-11-2009, 10:24 PM
maybe should of come back to us
should of come back to us

of come back to us.

Cheers Lessyboys,

Carlos

Gooders
28-11-2009, 06:49 PM
I'd have him in N'Diaye's role anyday. Or Ertl. How anyone can say he's not as good as those two is beyond me.

I wouldn't swap 2 Tom Soares for Ertl. He's improving every week, unlike Tom.

Barbara4003
28-11-2009, 06:53 PM
I'd like Ertl and Tom.

Best of both worlds :)

LeeSinnots ears
28-11-2009, 07:17 PM
should of come back to us

Yeah they were one short on the turnstiles today that is about the only contribution he could make back with us.

He was a figment of Dowie's and Taylors useless managerial imagination.
You can fool someof the people some of time etc etc

Pulis, and Pardew were also conned but had the good sense to get rid of quickly.
I suppose he helped Wednesday to their 0-4 result today

Move on Ertl has done more in the 6-7 games he has played than Soares did in 4 seasons:S:

Celestial Empire
28-11-2009, 08:37 PM
I wouldn't swap 2 Tom Soares for Ertl. He's improving every week, unlike Tom.

Yep, well impressed with Ertl today, he's starting to look a player.

MasterYoda
29-11-2009, 05:23 PM
is he still there and eligible for the FA Cup game?

Latvian Eagle
29-11-2009, 05:47 PM
I never ever quite got Tom Soares.

People slated him but he was always played as a Centre Mid. I remember when people were raving about him in the youth and reserve set up he used to play right mid.

It seems he's become a casualty of his own versatility. Dowie played him on the left, and then he moved into the centre, seemingly after that "next Patrick Vieira" comments came out.

pedro
29-11-2009, 05:54 PM
I never ever quite got Tom Soares.
It seems he's become a casualty of his own versatility.
I think you mean inability rather than versatility.

Barbara4003
29-11-2009, 05:55 PM
Why is this thread even in here?

Nelson Muntz
29-11-2009, 06:04 PM
Why is this thread even in here?
Should be in WoF.

Barbara4003
29-11-2009, 06:06 PM
Should be in WoF.

Or not on the BBS at all ;)

SE19_denizen
29-11-2009, 06:10 PM
lets give tom a tough test when we play wednesday in the fa cup

m_reid
26-01-2010, 03:26 PM
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_5886564,00.html

extended his loan at wednesday

Stavros 69
26-01-2010, 04:23 PM
Who cares. He's no Nick Clarle.

Barbara4003
26-01-2010, 04:25 PM
Who cares. He's no Nick Clarle.

I care, as it goes. Good for Tom.

But this is in the wrong forum.

Unfortunately, he is no longer a Palace player :(

Absolution
28-01-2010, 11:59 AM
Who cares. He's no Nick Clarle.I reckon he would have played more this season though.

If we continued to play three men in the centre, he would have complemented Danns and Derry.

SE5eagle
31-03-2011, 12:03 AM
Winding up scum and cutting rug on twitter:

"yeh might go wimbledon, workin my way down the clubs in london so millwall will come after wimbledon, barnet and sutton..."

<3

Kidofwonder
31-03-2011, 12:10 AM
Would you have him back? he must of done something right to play 154 games here. 149 games sorry.


been relegated 3 times as a player.

only played 7 times in all the years he's been at stoke. think he got found out?

webbo1990
31-03-2011, 12:18 AM
I'm sure they only bought him because he is tall. That's all they bought when they got promoted. I didnt feel he progressed very much while with us, i'd like to see him back and see what his hunger is like. He must be so frustrated.

Ryan_the_eagle
31-03-2011, 12:21 AM
Would you have him back? he must of done something right to play 154 games here. 149 games sorry.


been relegated 3 times as a player.

only played 7 times in all the years he's been at stoke. think he got found out?

Interesting, I always think Soares did a job for us although probably hasn't lived up to his full potential. I think Stoke was a bad move for him more because of the style of play and it will be interesting to see how that affects his career. At the moment I don't think he's the player we need, but it would be interesting to see what happens with our midfield in the summer. I certainly think that he'd be better accepted here than Dorman, even though I am yet to form an opinion on Dorman I think he is that type of player.

Kidofwonder
31-03-2011, 12:39 AM
off the ball Dorman is head and shoulders above 75% of our team. on it, he seems a bit uncertain.

AJ's right boot
31-03-2011, 06:33 AM
I always rated Tom, Dowie didnt help him playing him out of position the whole time. Id have him back in a heartbeat.

Gooders
31-03-2011, 06:58 AM
Only played 7 times in all the years he's been at stoke. think he got found out?

Yes.

He did actually have a couple of reasonable games for them but there's your answer - a couple.

Nice guy by all accounts but short of what's required I'm afraid.

Palace Bear
31-03-2011, 07:09 AM
I always liked Tommy, but not sure I could stand having him back because it was so soul destroying seeing Palace fans giving one of their own players (and one that came through the academy) so much abuse every home game.

sheepy
31-03-2011, 07:54 AM
I always rated Tom, Dowie didnt help him playing him out of position the whole time. Id have him back in a heartbeat.

Yup, if he still has the hunger we could do worse. Ambrose was in danger of going the same way and he turned it around by coming here, no reason Tom couldn't as well.

GanbareWashi
31-03-2011, 08:16 AM
Yup, if he still has the hunger we could do worse. Ambrose was in danger of going the same way and he turned it around by coming here, no reason Tom couldn't as well.

For Ambrose, we were a new club and the fans game him a chance. If Tom came back he would be returning and some fans would give him stick from the very beginning. I liked him and wish him well for the future, but don't think he should come back.

stinky
31-03-2011, 08:46 AM
He never fully performed because he was always stuck out on the wing. Tom Soares isn't a winger.

Would be interesting to see how he performs given a solid run of games in the middle for a team in the Champ. I reckon he'd do well.

sydnsteve
31-03-2011, 09:55 AM
Good athlete, mediocre footbalk player.

stevek
31-03-2011, 12:29 PM
He never fully performed because he was always stuck out on the wing. Tom Soares isn't a winger.

Would be interesting to see how he performs given a solid run of games in the middle for a team in the Champ. I reckon he'd do well.

He's not a winger, but he is a wide midfielder. It is the position that every manager who has had him has played him.

aj4england
31-03-2011, 12:32 PM
Tom Soares is a right back. Started there as a kid as a lot of our youth do! Athlete, positional good and can tackle. Passing and finishing where his weaknesses though so stick him at right back! You know it makes sense

gold76
31-03-2011, 12:37 PM
Think he'd work best in a 3 man midfield, alongside a stopper, a trio of Marrow, KG & Soares could work in theory.

He's got a good engine on him, just never seemed to get involved enough, although stuck on the wing couldn't have helped his confidence much.

Don't think he'd come back due to the stick he got..

kolinkins
31-03-2011, 12:42 PM
He's not a winger, but he is a wide midfielder. It is the position that every manager who has had him has played him.

Apart from the manager who got the best out of him - Warnock, who used him as a box to box midfielder (Derry holding, Watson making play)

Arguably his best games under Dowie came in the centre with Ben too

Skiddo
31-03-2011, 12:45 PM
Would be interesting to see how he performs given a solid run of games in the middle for a team in the Champ. I reckon he'd do well.

Warnock used him in the centre for near enough the whole season of 07-08.

ee-ay-ee-ay-ee-ay-o
31-03-2011, 12:49 PM
He's got a good engine on him, just never seemed to get involved enough, .
Correct Gold76. But the reason he didnt get involved is because Im afraid he had no footballing brain. Thats why he only ever played a couple of good games for us...if the pattern/style of game didnt suit him he had no way of adapting. He couldn't read games or players come to that.

Sorry but one of the most overated players (by some) that we've had in the last few years. And of course by that very fact, one that causes the most division amongst the fans.

Aaroncpfc
31-03-2011, 01:54 PM
Warnock used him in the centre for near enough the whole season of 07-08.

That was probably his best season too. With Ben Watson and Sean Derry in midfield he looked like a different player. Obviously not as good as Neil Danns but in my opinion looked better than Owen Garvan ever has in that role for us.

Skiddo
31-03-2011, 07:01 PM
That was probably his best season too. With Ben Watson and Sean Derry in midfield he looked like a different player. Obviously not as good as Neil Danns but in my opinion looked better than Owen Garvan ever has in that role for us.

Can't really argue with that.

sirdougie
05-04-2011, 09:04 AM
Tom Soares was a great player off the ball, but fairly average on the ball.

And I mean that as a compliment!

kestoneagle
05-04-2011, 09:13 AM
Tom Soares was a great player off the ball, but fairly average on the ball.

And I mean that as a compliment!

Ironically I would argue the opposite. Once he actually got the ball he could make quite dangerous runs forward but spent far too much time being bypassed by the opposition passing and seemed to specialise in not quite being in the right place at the right time to make a tackle.

Kirby
05-04-2011, 09:18 AM
Really nice bloke but such a frustrating player. I'm not really sure what he offered apart from energy. He couldn't really tackle, pass, head or shoot.

sydnsteve
06-04-2011, 09:38 AM
The use of great and Tom Soares in the same sentence really should be banned. He was average, and still is. Would never want him back (not even for Barbara).

wedgetail
06-04-2011, 09:51 AM
Correct Gold76. But the reason he didnt get involved is because Im afraid he had no footballing brain. .

Correct, however if a manager could teach him a role in a fixed system he could be a very useful player.

Icy
06-04-2011, 09:57 AM
He was shite. Can't believe some of our fans use to slate Benny Watson (now a prem regular) and yet want Tom choclate teapot Soares (who has achieved nothing) back. Its beyond belief.

Owngoal
06-04-2011, 10:07 AM
At least we got a good fee for him from Stoke. Pullis collects midfielders like Warnock did strikers and has the same success rate with signings

Barney Gumble
21-08-2012, 07:05 AM
Just seen that he was released by Stoke and is training with Pompey at the moment, surely he is worth another punt. I guess his wages would be low if nobody wants him.

FromSelhurst
21-08-2012, 07:11 AM
no.

Ralph
21-08-2012, 07:11 AM
Has gone backwards since leaving us.

I liked him when he was here but not what we need right now. O'Keefe offers more and doesn't yet make the team.

Fingers crossed on Bolasie, Church, Allen and Baldock to go with the current squad. That'd give DF the options to be more attacking.

Will S
21-08-2012, 07:26 AM
Hate to say it, because I want every player we develop to be good - but the money we got from that sale was one of our better deals.

pedro
21-08-2012, 07:29 AM
Has gone backwards since leaving us.
Not really, he was always that bad it just took some of you longer to realise than others. Nice bloke, $hit footballer.

Dave
21-08-2012, 07:34 AM
Really nice bloke but such a frustrating player. I'm not really sure what he offered apart from energy. He couldn't really tackle, pass, head or shoot.

Overly harsh.

His passing was no worse than 'fans favourite' Jedniak

In fact, I would take the pepsi challenge and suggest his completion rate was higher.

SEEPEEEFFSEE
21-08-2012, 07:34 AM
surely he is worth another punt

Seriously? If that is the level some are setting the bar at, we may as well go home now.

adrenalin john
21-08-2012, 07:44 AM
Overly harsh.

His passing was no worse than 'fans favourite' Jedniak

In fact, I would take the pepsi challenge and suggest his completion rate was higher.


His passing and dribbling was far better than Jedi's. But Jedi is a defensive player and whose strength is his strength and superb defensive attributes.

Soares should have it all, has got a great touch, good skills, a bit of pace, tremendous engine but never consistently put it all together to dominate like he should be capable of doing.

aj4england
21-08-2012, 07:47 AM
Always thought that his best position would have been at right wingback,fairly pacey and good height. Wouldnt mind him back

SteveyHawking
21-08-2012, 07:53 AM
Soares played in a much better team than we have now hence why he didn't look great as he is an average Championship player at best. Central midfield isn't a particular need at the moment in comparison with other positions so that is a no for him. Good to see people wanting former players to rejoin us though - what a thoroughly refreshing idea.

FromSelhurst
21-08-2012, 07:55 AM
Soares played in a much better team than we have now hence why he didn't look great as he is an average Championship player at best. Central midfield isn't a particular need at the moment in comparison with other positions so that is a no for him. Good to see people wanting former players to rejoin us though - what a thoroughly refreshing idea.

given that our centre mids cant pass, it should be a priority.

Dedders
21-08-2012, 08:04 AM
If we buy Tom Soares and put him on the right wing as the answer to our lack of spark out wide I will ****ing despair

Sir.S.C Remembered
21-08-2012, 08:12 AM
If we buy Tom Soares and put him on the right wing as the answer to our lack of spark out wide I will ****ing despair

Seconded. Fenwick over him.

Amazed we got good funds for Soares. Shows English youngsters are vastly overpriced and rated

Kirby
21-08-2012, 08:19 AM
Just seen that he was released by Stoke and is training with Pompey at the moment, surely he is worth another punt. I guess his wages would be low if nobody wants him.

Good God no :sob:

Stavros 69
21-08-2012, 08:22 AM
No, he's so so poor.

Barney Gumble
21-08-2012, 08:26 AM
Seriously? If that is the level some are setting the bar at, we may as well go home now.

My general view is that we have a tiny squad, already without Paddy and JW, Marrow sent on loan, Cadogan released, we are woefully short on wingers, defenders and strikers. Yet there are many many players who are without a club at the moment, like Soares and the Leicester centre half we had on loan (cant remember the buggers name)

There must be more like them as well.

budgie
21-08-2012, 08:35 AM
My general view is that we have a tiny squad, already without Paddy and JW, Marrow sent on loan, Cadogan released, we are woefully short on wingers, defenders and strikers. Yet there are many many players who are without a club at the moment, like Soares and the Leicester centre half we had on loan (cant remember the buggers name)

There must be more like them as well.

The problem would in all seriousness though, be that they aren't fit enough.

MasterYoda
21-08-2012, 08:39 AM
I still find it amazing he got a move away before Ben did

BR5 Eagle
21-08-2012, 09:22 AM
He's been training with Marlow in pre-season...

CPFC_DAVE77
21-08-2012, 10:40 AM
Underrated. Though has =done a smuch to hinder his career as Stoke have.

I like him, but would advice him so heavily not to join us as he would have no chance with the 'fans.'

Aaroncpfc
21-08-2012, 10:43 AM
In a 4-3-3 alongside a good player on the ball a DM that gets stuck in he will be good. Any other formation I think he will struggle.

Justy C
21-08-2012, 10:50 AM
Always thought that his best position would have been at right wingback,fairly pacey and good height. Wouldnt mind him back

Agree with that, would say he could do a very decent job at right back.

SEEPEEEFFSEE
21-08-2012, 10:52 AM
As pointed about above, we have young players that will be chompin at the bit to step up and show what they can do.

If money is as much of an issue as different sources are making it out to be then surely we should be opening the door to the likes of Allassani/Fenwick etc etc.

People will say they aren't ready blah blah blah but they've been used during pre season and by all accounts have put in very good shifts.

Barney Gumble
21-08-2012, 10:55 AM
As pointed about above, we have young players that will be chompin at the bit to step up and show what they can do.

If money is as much of an issue as different sources are making it out to be then surely we should be opening the door to the likes of Allassani/Fenwick etc etc.

People will say they aren't ready blah blah blah but they've been used during pre season and by all accounts have put in very good shifts.

It was Freedman that said they are not ready.

The Omen
21-08-2012, 11:28 AM
Hasn't he ballooned recently? I don't think he is up to Championship level football any more.

TC EAGLE
21-08-2012, 12:00 PM
is he not down at Pompey as one of there one month signings

foxinthebox
21-08-2012, 12:22 PM
no. i was delighted when we got rid of him the first time. hes missed out on 3 seasons of playing regular football at a decent level

hibs now?

foxinthebox
21-08-2012, 12:24 PM
It was Freedman that said they are not ready.

he does tend to go "under" board on these things sometimes

we might be playing them if we get even a couple of injuries so might be worth giving them a few run outs

Billyd
21-08-2012, 02:39 PM
Getting 2m for Soares was one of the best bits of business Palace have done in the last 10 years, lets not sign him back.

Jim Cannon
21-08-2012, 03:04 PM
For gods sake NO. He has been useless for all the clubs he's been loaned to

Owngoal
21-08-2012, 03:46 PM
Getting 2m for Soares was one of the best bits of business Palace have done in the last 10 years, lets not sign him back.

Yet some start threads advocating the Tony Pullis wisdom of transfers. Reminds you of the Harry Enfield shop 'I saw you coming'

cockles
21-08-2012, 04:34 PM
Yet some start threads advocating the Tony Pullis wisdom of transfers. Reminds you of the Harry Enfield shop 'I saw you coming'

Tony Pulis is a chancer who's got lucky despite many risky signings and by crawling to Ferguson for decent loanees.
Tom Soares was signed on the back of the decent performance he put in up at Stoke during Warnock's first 6 months. So much for scouting.

Bungalow
21-08-2012, 04:51 PM
Tom Soares is an average player who would do no better or worse than many of the current squad.

However it is nearly always a mistake to go back to a club once you've been sold. I know, I know Dougie Freedman. Exception, rules etc etc.

Look elsewhere.

Owngoal
21-08-2012, 05:54 PM
Tony Pulis is a chancer who's got lucky despite many risky signings and by crawling to Ferguson for decent loanees.
Tom Soares was signed on the back of the decent performance he put in up at Stoke during Warnock's first 6 months. So much for scouting.
Also paid a million for our lanky black centre half Cort and then hardly played him, again going for nothing? Andy Dorman is rather good isn't he Tony?;)